Month, Day: 167, Dominion, Dominion (Majesty)
Anyone know how many Basic matters there are for us to consider? Quite a few, actually.
So, we'll persist, slowly, with the effort, hopefully toward enlightenment. Yet, would that be of the few or of the many?
Some themes that need attention pertain to things related to the development of human qualities (so many), to the evolution of the artifacts that are our creation (embedded in Creation), to the necessary inclusions that have been so adamantly denied successfully to date, and much more.
Remarks:
05/26/2011 -- A 'super' position can have merit.
04/04/2011 -- We'll be looking at things like foreknowledge.
03/17/2011 -- Just as St. Patrick carried the message, so too ought we act to bring forth a proper viewpoint.
03/11/2011 -- Teleological (Mercy), Operational (Names)
Modified: 05/26/2011
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Thursday, February 24, 2011
Tuesday, January 25, 2011
Basic matters, i
Month, Day: 167, Sovereignty, Words (Grace)
This continues the discussion, started in the last post, about what the Writings might mean for science and whether science has shown anything in the Writings to be false. To wit: evolution and ether. The motivation? Apologetic stances, from certain positions, that are unnecessary.
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There has to be some attention put upon the context. For instance, the Master (hereinafter, M2) is the son of the Manifestation (hereinafter, M1); the M1 appearance is a cyclic phenomenon of a period of about 1000 years. Hence, M2, by definition and realization, would have cognitive, to use the modern parlance, and other abilities of which we can only imagine.
Too, the whole cyclic theme accompanies increasing abilities (obviously observable - what is controversial? from whence this?). Let's just leave it there, for now.
Now, 'ether' has many connotations, one of which was used by the physicists in their tests. Yet, is not Light an attribute? But, did it play in the scheme? Well, we'll leave that, for now, too.
Consider advances such as those that allow us to know how to 'lift' content (however described, even though geometrically (via algebra) is the state of the art) from one space into another of a higher-order, again we'll use dimensional, for now. As, whatever mathematics lifts out is a metaphor for something, in many cases ('abstract nonsense' may be more than mere diatribe cast'd by the ignorant).
We do have this notion that something needs to be computational (either by offering insight or by being operationally effective), perhaps that relates to the emphasis on action in the Writings of M1. After all, does not the Koran say that God is the most speedy reckoner of all those who reckon (paraphrase, of course)? What M1 brought was the condition, of the current times, that allows us the potential for the artificial reckoner of unknown boundedness (see the 4th Valley: The first is His statement: “O My Servant! Obey Me and I shall make thee like unto Myself. I say ‘Be,’ and it is, and thou shalt say ‘Be,’ and it shall be.” ).
Hint here, folks! Some already point to 'dark energy' and other factors (equation'als) that fudge the system into convergence. And, there are many of these, as that is the key to the technique. The cleverness relates directly to that which allows the lift.
At which point will God (as neither the lifter nor that which is lifted) be accepted so that the insights can grow in the directions that will be required?
As an aside, Lamark was drummed out of town. Know what? Many of the techniques that relate to naturally-framed computational approaches use methods that are not unlike the basic notion of Lamark. Oh course, who cares as it's only within the abstracted, and for the most part unseen, virtual spaces associated with computational states, and the decisions thereof.
Why mention this? There is no means possible for M2 to be thus drummed. Now, does that mean that we can compute anything in the Writings? Well, M1, and M2, did not use mathematics. Ever think of why (hint! quasi-empiricism)?
So, we can continue to attend to M2's comments related to evolution, recapitulation, et al, in a spirit 'lifting' manner.
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Remarks:
05/26/2011 -- A 'super' position can have merit.
04/04/2011 -- We'll be looking at things like foreknowledge.
03/17/2011 -- Just as St. Patrick carried the message, so too ought we act to bring forth a proper viewpoint.
03/11/2011 -- Teleological (Mercy), Operational (Names)
02/24/2011 -- Continuation of the theme.
01/25/2011 -- Note, please, that the continuances of the discussion will use concepts, such as the above, to illustrate how being (as in, to be) is squished via projections (somewhat, an inverse of the lift), trampled by lifts, and just all around abused. That is problematic and counter to a more full science.
Modified: 05/26/2011
This continues the discussion, started in the last post, about what the Writings might mean for science and whether science has shown anything in the Writings to be false. To wit: evolution and ether. The motivation? Apologetic stances, from certain positions, that are unnecessary.
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There has to be some attention put upon the context. For instance, the Master (hereinafter, M2) is the son of the Manifestation (hereinafter, M1); the M1 appearance is a cyclic phenomenon of a period of about 1000 years. Hence, M2, by definition and realization, would have cognitive, to use the modern parlance, and other abilities of which we can only imagine.
Too, the whole cyclic theme accompanies increasing abilities (obviously observable - what is controversial? from whence this?). Let's just leave it there, for now.
Now, 'ether' has many connotations, one of which was used by the physicists in their tests. Yet, is not Light an attribute? But, did it play in the scheme? Well, we'll leave that, for now, too.
Consider advances such as those that allow us to know how to 'lift' content (however described, even though geometrically (via algebra) is the state of the art) from one space into another of a higher-order, again we'll use dimensional, for now. As, whatever mathematics lifts out is a metaphor for something, in many cases ('abstract nonsense' may be more than mere diatribe cast'd by the ignorant).
We do have this notion that something needs to be computational (either by offering insight or by being operationally effective), perhaps that relates to the emphasis on action in the Writings of M1. After all, does not the Koran say that God is the most speedy reckoner of all those who reckon (paraphrase, of course)? What M1 brought was the condition, of the current times, that allows us the potential for the artificial reckoner of unknown boundedness (see the 4th Valley: The first is His statement: “O My Servant! Obey Me and I shall make thee like unto Myself. I say ‘Be,’ and it is, and thou shalt say ‘Be,’ and it shall be.” ).
Hint here, folks! Some already point to 'dark energy' and other factors (equation'als) that fudge the system into convergence. And, there are many of these, as that is the key to the technique. The cleverness relates directly to that which allows the lift.
At which point will God (as neither the lifter nor that which is lifted) be accepted so that the insights can grow in the directions that will be required?
As an aside, Lamark was drummed out of town. Know what? Many of the techniques that relate to naturally-framed computational approaches use methods that are not unlike the basic notion of Lamark. Oh course, who cares as it's only within the abstracted, and for the most part unseen, virtual spaces associated with computational states, and the decisions thereof.
Why mention this? There is no means possible for M2 to be thus drummed. Now, does that mean that we can compute anything in the Writings? Well, M1, and M2, did not use mathematics. Ever think of why (hint! quasi-empiricism)?
So, we can continue to attend to M2's comments related to evolution, recapitulation, et al, in a spirit 'lifting' manner.
...
Remarks:
05/26/2011 -- A 'super' position can have merit.
04/04/2011 -- We'll be looking at things like foreknowledge.
03/17/2011 -- Just as St. Patrick carried the message, so too ought we act to bring forth a proper viewpoint.
03/11/2011 -- Teleological (Mercy), Operational (Names)
02/24/2011 -- Continuation of the theme.
01/25/2011 -- Note, please, that the continuances of the discussion will use concepts, such as the above, to illustrate how being (as in, to be) is squished via projections (somewhat, an inverse of the lift), trampled by lifts, and just all around abused. That is problematic and counter to a more full science.
Modified: 05/26/2011
Thursday, November 4, 2010
Power of science
Month, Day: 167, Power, Splendour (Majesty)
We're in the Motivational period for 167. Remember, we started with the Transcendent, then had the Teleological, and just finished the Operational. This period will end with Honour, at which point we'll start the Ascendant toward the refreshing of the next year.
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Had thought to use capital 'S' but did not for reasons that may be of interest at some point.
We are to know, and obey, the Manifestations who inform us by Writings, their Selves, and their System. That is the personal motivation.
Now, we apply science to tear things down, looking for truth, with an associated task of putting things back together.
What can science tell us about the Manifestation?
Discussion of these types of items will continue throughout Power and the Motivational period.
Remarks:
11/16/2010 -- What can science know?
11/05/2010 -- We are encouraged to excel at what we do, that is, God likes people to vie, peacefully. (If God has so willed, He might have made you a single community, but [He has not done so] that He might test you in what He has given you; so compete in goodness. Qu'ran, 5:48) Progress comes from that. So, can applying Principles from the Faith improve the scientific process and its results? One way that this could happen would be insights obtained via the principles. Have we seen that yet?
Modified: 11/16/2010
We're in the Motivational period for 167. Remember, we started with the Transcendent, then had the Teleological, and just finished the Operational. This period will end with Honour, at which point we'll start the Ascendant toward the refreshing of the next year.
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Had thought to use capital 'S' but did not for reasons that may be of interest at some point.
We are to know, and obey, the Manifestations who inform us by Writings, their Selves, and their System. That is the personal motivation.
Now, we apply science to tear things down, looking for truth, with an associated task of putting things back together.
What can science tell us about the Manifestation?
Discussion of these types of items will continue throughout Power and the Motivational period.
Remarks:
11/16/2010 -- What can science know?
11/05/2010 -- We are encouraged to excel at what we do, that is, God likes people to vie, peacefully. (If God has so willed, He might have made you a single community, but [He has not done so] that He might test you in what He has given you; so compete in goodness. Qu'ran, 5:48) Progress comes from that. So, can applying Principles from the Faith improve the scientific process and its results? One way that this could happen would be insights obtained via the principles. Have we seen that yet?
Modified: 11/16/2010
Monday, August 16, 2010
A System
Month, Day: 167, Perfection, Honour (Perfection)
The last of the Motivational group, in this month of Perfection.
One could use the metaphor of attractors (and their opposites), somewhat. As we see from the Iqan (#213): He must so cleanse his heart that no remnant of either love or hate may linger therein, lest that love blindly incline him to error, or that hate repel him away from the truth.
Yet, measures come in, too. As, progress needs some type of denotation, and metric, to support the necessary controls. But, then the metrics are not sufficient.
Remarks:
08/31/2012 -- Names, Knowledge, Independence.
05/26/2011 -- A 'super' position can have merit.
05/17/2011 -- Stephen gets press.
05/09/2011 -- We need a constructive re-look.
04/04/2011 -- We'll be looking at things like foreknowledge. Man, and system.
08/19/2010 -- Measures do exist already, of many sorts.
Modified: 08/31/2012
The last of the Motivational group, in this month of Perfection.
One could use the metaphor of attractors (and their opposites), somewhat. As we see from the Iqan (#213): He must so cleanse his heart that no remnant of either love or hate may linger therein, lest that love blindly incline him to error, or that hate repel him away from the truth.
Yet, measures come in, too. As, progress needs some type of denotation, and metric, to support the necessary controls. But, then the metrics are not sufficient.
Remarks:
08/31/2012 -- Names, Knowledge, Independence.
05/26/2011 -- A 'super' position can have merit.
05/17/2011 -- Stephen gets press.
05/09/2011 -- We need a constructive re-look.
04/04/2011 -- We'll be looking at things like foreknowledge. Man, and system.
08/19/2010 -- Measures do exist already, of many sorts.
Modified: 08/31/2012
Saturday, June 19, 2010
Congruences
Month, Day: 167, Light, Speech (Independence)
So many things to ponder, such as congruences. There are many of these. Of note, to the Teleological theme, is the minor and major overlap of calendars: fifth month of Light starting on the fifth day of June and the eight month of Perfection starting with the eight month of August.
But, the brights (ought there be a category?) have their focus leaving a whole realm to audacity.
SAQ (#42): The enlightenment of the world of thought comes from these centers of light and sources of mysteries. Without the bounty of the splendor and the instructions of these Holy Beings the world of souls and thoughts would be opaque darkness.
Of course, there will be limits to how much science can study the Manifestation.
SAQ (#45): In short, the meaning of “He doeth whatsoever He willeth” is that if the Manifestation says something, or gives a command, or performs an action, and believers do not understand its wisdom, they still ought not to oppose it by a single thought, seeking to know why He spoke so, or why He did such a thing.
Yet, we have the Operational and Questions.
So many things to ponder, such as congruences. There are many of these. Of note, to the Teleological theme, is the minor and major overlap of calendars: fifth month of Light starting on the fifth day of June and the eight month of Perfection starting with the eight month of August.
But, the brights (ought there be a category?) have their focus leaving a whole realm to audacity.
SAQ (#42): The enlightenment of the world of thought comes from these centers of light and sources of mysteries. Without the bounty of the splendor and the instructions of these Holy Beings the world of souls and thoughts would be opaque darkness.
Of course, there will be limits to how much science can study the Manifestation.
SAQ (#45): In short, the meaning of “He doeth whatsoever He willeth” is that if the Manifestation says something, or gives a command, or performs an action, and believers do not understand its wisdom, they still ought not to oppose it by a single thought, seeking to know why He spoke so, or why He did such a thing.
Yet, we have the Operational and Questions.
Tuesday, April 20, 2010
Transcendent topology
Month, Day: 167, Glory, Knowledge (Grace)
Month, Day: 167, Glory, Power (Justice)
Consider Aqdas (#144): All things proceed from God and unto Him they return. He is the source of all things and in Him all things are ended.
Simple enough. We are to show the operational aspects of this and to define the benefits thereof.
And, the work is for the believers who are those aware of the twin duties (and their kin) as well as being for the non-believers who are not subsumed under the brights, necessarily, as many may just not be amenable to being mentored (in general, the autodidact).
So, now being short, consider the arguments concerning underdetermination. Some concepts are 'too blunt' to support determination, and progress has come from sharpening the blade (Occam's is an example) and from adding to our observable set (limits here are too easily identified).
How the larger picture is filled in, without the Key, can be problematic. Which leads to the above quote that deals with 'from whence' among other things.
As well, a re-iteration is in order: Transcendent --> Teleological --> Operational --> Motivational --> Ascendant.
Notice, please, that Operational is the balancing feature.
Modified: 04/24/2010
Month, Day: 167, Glory, Power (Justice)
Consider Aqdas (#144): All things proceed from God and unto Him they return. He is the source of all things and in Him all things are ended.
Simple enough. We are to show the operational aspects of this and to define the benefits thereof.
And, the work is for the believers who are those aware of the twin duties (and their kin) as well as being for the non-believers who are not subsumed under the brights, necessarily, as many may just not be amenable to being mentored (in general, the autodidact).
So, now being short, consider the arguments concerning underdetermination. Some concepts are 'too blunt' to support determination, and progress has come from sharpening the blade (Occam's is an example) and from adding to our observable set (limits here are too easily identified).
How the larger picture is filled in, without the Key, can be problematic. Which leads to the above quote that deals with 'from whence' among other things.
As well, a re-iteration is in order: Transcendent --> Teleological --> Operational --> Motivational --> Ascendant.
Notice, please, that Operational is the balancing feature.
Modified: 04/24/2010
Friday, January 8, 2010
Underdetermination
Month, Day: 166, Honour, Names (Independence)
Of course, the question here is: can we move away from having the underdetermined abound around us?
SAQ #83: Therefore, there is no standard in the hands of people upon which we can rely.
Hubris is one reason for not accepting an extension of the Incompleteness Theorem. Pure operational confidence is another. Yet, many flounder. That is, even of the brights, we would probably find a substantial number who would accept that the best stance is what Pascal described so aptly, not the more in-your-face stance that has been so vehemently offered, of late.
The Key will continued to be explored both in attribute and utility.
Aside: Of late, there has been interest in planets nearly like the earth. There was a point in time when such comments would have been verboten. But, science and the related views do change as facts firm up.
Remarks:
01/25/2012 -- Yes, still at it. Ready to be more audacious. What we're looking for has to do with mind; at some point, it will be allowed by science that we can observe effects (actually, predict, to boot - one step forward will be a more insightful mathematics).
05/17/2011 -- Stephen gets press.
05/09/2011 -- We need a constructive re-look.
04/21/2010 -- We need to upgrade to a Transcendent Topology.
03/10/2010 -- A duty, know the Transcendent.
Modified: 01/25/2012
Of course, the question here is: can we move away from having the underdetermined abound around us?
SAQ #83: Therefore, there is no standard in the hands of people upon which we can rely.
Hubris is one reason for not accepting an extension of the Incompleteness Theorem. Pure operational confidence is another. Yet, many flounder. That is, even of the brights, we would probably find a substantial number who would accept that the best stance is what Pascal described so aptly, not the more in-your-face stance that has been so vehemently offered, of late.
The Key will continued to be explored both in attribute and utility.
Aside: Of late, there has been interest in planets nearly like the earth. There was a point in time when such comments would have been verboten. But, science and the related views do change as facts firm up.
Remarks:
01/25/2012 -- Yes, still at it. Ready to be more audacious. What we're looking for has to do with mind; at some point, it will be allowed by science that we can observe effects (actually, predict, to boot - one step forward will be a more insightful mathematics).
05/17/2011 -- Stephen gets press.
05/09/2011 -- We need a constructive re-look.
04/21/2010 -- We need to upgrade to a Transcendent Topology.
03/10/2010 -- A duty, know the Transcendent.
Modified: 01/25/2012
Wednesday, October 7, 2009
Will to will
Month, Day: 166, Will, Will (Justice)
Several topics could be apropos to the theme, yet one arises naturally.
We know that people have Will, namely through observing volition in ourselves and others. Of course, we can know this through Revelation, too.
What influence does one's will have on others? That is, we know there are differences between individuals, by design, that exhibit themselves various ways. Stronger wills impose their views on those of the lessor. In that very large middle, we might have more egalité than not.
Some think that the give and take within the playing out of a program's unfolding requires resolution of conflicts that are will enabled. That is, a big question about performance, and its expectation, concerns what is possible. For instance, 'cannot do' does not mean 'will not do' in many cases. Yet, many times an inexperienced view, willing to try, is allowed to create a mess. But, we do, or can, learn thereby.
The modern view loses itself in the confounding that is inevitable. Why? For one, the computer has turned things around thereby placing many modern situations in more of a stack-of-cards condition than is realized.
Trying to resolve how to theoretically describe some aspects of these things led to game theory which can be applied in many situations. Yet, there is more than that esteemed field covers.
Perhaps, themes related to audacity are necessary. Similar to there being in situ variations, people interactions are as varied and, perhaps, even more so. Too, part of the 'in situ' property would be who's there, that is, local influences upon some type of medium.
Ah, one might say, that's been thrown out. Or, such considerations are beyond the purview of ourselves here on this side of Creation.
But, wait, such dynamics may be very much analogous to that behind thermodynamics and could very well be amenable to our understanding or, at least, to our utilitarian interests.
Do we know a priori?
Several topics could be apropos to the theme, yet one arises naturally.
We know that people have Will, namely through observing volition in ourselves and others. Of course, we can know this through Revelation, too.
What influence does one's will have on others? That is, we know there are differences between individuals, by design, that exhibit themselves various ways. Stronger wills impose their views on those of the lessor. In that very large middle, we might have more egalité than not.
Some think that the give and take within the playing out of a program's unfolding requires resolution of conflicts that are will enabled. That is, a big question about performance, and its expectation, concerns what is possible. For instance, 'cannot do' does not mean 'will not do' in many cases. Yet, many times an inexperienced view, willing to try, is allowed to create a mess. But, we do, or can, learn thereby.
The modern view loses itself in the confounding that is inevitable. Why? For one, the computer has turned things around thereby placing many modern situations in more of a stack-of-cards condition than is realized.
Trying to resolve how to theoretically describe some aspects of these things led to game theory which can be applied in many situations. Yet, there is more than that esteemed field covers.
Perhaps, themes related to audacity are necessary. Similar to there being in situ variations, people interactions are as varied and, perhaps, even more so. Too, part of the 'in situ' property would be who's there, that is, local influences upon some type of medium.
Ah, one might say, that's been thrown out. Or, such considerations are beyond the purview of ourselves here on this side of Creation.
But, wait, such dynamics may be very much analogous to that behind thermodynamics and could very well be amenable to our understanding or, at least, to our utilitarian interests.
Do we know a priori?
Thursday, August 20, 2009
Eight months
Month, Day: 166, Perfection, Loftiness (Justice)
Month, Day: 166, Names, Splendour (Perfection)
Going through the Transcendent and Teleological offers a chance for reflection on the latter times. Thankfully, we'll go through them again each month.
Leaving Perfection motivates pointing to SAQ #37: If the attributes are not identical with the Essence, there must also be a multiplicity of preexistences, and differences between the attributes and the Essence must also exist; and as Preexistence is necessary, therefore, the sequence of preexistences would become infinite. This is an evident error.
As said before, that is very topological and is the basis for the Operational and the Motivational.
Remarks:
11/23/2009 -- 14 months in.
Modified: 11/23/2009
Month, Day: 166, Names, Splendour (Perfection)
Going through the Transcendent and Teleological offers a chance for reflection on the latter times. Thankfully, we'll go through them again each month.
Leaving Perfection motivates pointing to SAQ #37: If the attributes are not identical with the Essence, there must also be a multiplicity of preexistences, and differences between the attributes and the Essence must also exist; and as Preexistence is necessary, therefore, the sequence of preexistences would become infinite. This is an evident error.
As said before, that is very topological and is the basis for the Operational and the Motivational.
Remarks:
11/23/2009 -- 14 months in.
Modified: 11/23/2009
Thursday, August 6, 2009
Teleological, remix
Month, Day: Perfection, Light (Justice)
So, we're in the last month of the Teleological group. To what end can this be used? Well, just the use of the T word grates on the ears of the brights. No, they say. There's not aught but nothing. Or, it would seem, if truth be told.
That is, their view has no place for the approach being sought through audacity. Again, thought experiments along this line can be quite interesting.
The telling factor will be effectiveness, though; the issue? As measured by what? Well, we'll get to that. Why?
Everyone has the ability to assess what this topic is addressing, including the whole spectrum of humanity from the lowly, highly restrained one to that set taken to be some type of epitome (culturally defined, yet almost universally applied). The time of the two lives this year allowed us to think of how far we still need to go in this matter.
So, per the norm, the Writings are key, with some local (note, did not say loco) notion applied. For instance, take SAQ #28, please, which looks at something attributed to St. John (Yahyay, if you would).
We see: "The Word of God is sanctified from time." The note says that this refers to Christ. Later, it goes on: "Therefore, the Reality of Christ, Who is the Word of God, with regard to essence, attributes and glory, certainly precedes the creatures."
Well, we just went through the month Words (7th of 19). Using another John, of the Gospel, we know the Word precedes (SAQ #54). Too, we know that there is (has been) a periodic refreshing, so to speak.
So, the long chain of development here was somehow influenced by the comings. How? Ah, not easily told. Is it important within the framework of an enlightened science?
Well, one can talk the human side, somewhat. What applies to matter? See, Iqan #31: "Thus it is that through the rise of these Luminaries of God the world is made new, the waters of everlasting life stream forth, the billows of loving-kindness surge, the clouds of grace are gathered, and the breeze of bounty bloweth upon all created things."
No answers yet, please, as we're still into Questions. But, one dilemma of the modern view is the polarity between two extremes, namely: relativistic morality and religious fundamentalism.
Striking a balance ought to have a powerful influence. That this might be tempted is audacious, indeed.
The anticipation is that the Operational times will be very interesting.
Again, and as a final note, the cycles continue unabated. Something to be thankful for.
But, as a reminder, remember SAQ #37, the basic topological argument when we talk Words to Names, and more.
Oops, another final thought, probably elsewhere stated. This month is the only one where the western month and the Baha'i month have congruence of their starts. Some meaning there, no doubt, as significances are more than happenstance. So, we'll start the Operational with Names on 8/20.
Remarks:
04/21/2010 -- We need to upgrade to a Transcendent Topology.
11/23/2009 -- Motivational thoughts.
10/18/2009 -- Defining challenges might be an interesting task.
09/26/2009 -- An issue for the Operational view.
08/16/2009 -- The Operational group is approaching, and ontology is primal. One area of focus, as suggested by this post, will be mind-body studies. Somehow, insights from the Writings ought to have importance, teleological and operational.
08/13/2009 -- Return applies under the Teleological.
08/12/2009 -- Actually, Perfection and August are the 8th months in their respective calendars. What an interesting congruence (8/1-19)!
Modified: 04/21/2010
So, we're in the last month of the Teleological group. To what end can this be used? Well, just the use of the T word grates on the ears of the brights. No, they say. There's not aught but nothing. Or, it would seem, if truth be told.
That is, their view has no place for the approach being sought through audacity. Again, thought experiments along this line can be quite interesting.
The telling factor will be effectiveness, though; the issue? As measured by what? Well, we'll get to that. Why?
Everyone has the ability to assess what this topic is addressing, including the whole spectrum of humanity from the lowly, highly restrained one to that set taken to be some type of epitome (culturally defined, yet almost universally applied). The time of the two lives this year allowed us to think of how far we still need to go in this matter.
So, per the norm, the Writings are key, with some local (note, did not say loco) notion applied. For instance, take SAQ #28, please, which looks at something attributed to St. John (Yahyay, if you would).
We see: "The Word of God is sanctified from time." The note says that this refers to Christ. Later, it goes on: "Therefore, the Reality of Christ, Who is the Word of God, with regard to essence, attributes and glory, certainly precedes the creatures."
Well, we just went through the month Words (7th of 19). Using another John, of the Gospel, we know the Word precedes (SAQ #54). Too, we know that there is (has been) a periodic refreshing, so to speak.
So, the long chain of development here was somehow influenced by the comings. How? Ah, not easily told. Is it important within the framework of an enlightened science?
Well, one can talk the human side, somewhat. What applies to matter? See, Iqan #31: "Thus it is that through the rise of these Luminaries of God the world is made new, the waters of everlasting life stream forth, the billows of loving-kindness surge, the clouds of grace are gathered, and the breeze of bounty bloweth upon all created things."
No answers yet, please, as we're still into Questions. But, one dilemma of the modern view is the polarity between two extremes, namely: relativistic morality and religious fundamentalism.
Striking a balance ought to have a powerful influence. That this might be tempted is audacious, indeed.
The anticipation is that the Operational times will be very interesting.
Again, and as a final note, the cycles continue unabated. Something to be thankful for.
But, as a reminder, remember SAQ #37, the basic topological argument when we talk Words to Names, and more.
Oops, another final thought, probably elsewhere stated. This month is the only one where the western month and the Baha'i month have congruence of their starts. Some meaning there, no doubt, as significances are more than happenstance. So, we'll start the Operational with Names on 8/20.
Remarks:
04/21/2010 -- We need to upgrade to a Transcendent Topology.
11/23/2009 -- Motivational thoughts.
10/18/2009 -- Defining challenges might be an interesting task.
09/26/2009 -- An issue for the Operational view.
08/16/2009 -- The Operational group is approaching, and ontology is primal. One area of focus, as suggested by this post, will be mind-body studies. Somehow, insights from the Writings ought to have importance, teleological and operational.
08/13/2009 -- Return applies under the Teleological.
08/12/2009 -- Actually, Perfection and August are the 8th months in their respective calendars. What an interesting congruence (8/1-19)!
Modified: 04/21/2010
Tuesday, July 14, 2009
Words and more
Month, Day: Words, Splendour (Perfection)
Month, Day: Words, Beauty (Justice)
Gosh, Mercy is gone, but we're not abandoned. The Teleological continues.
And, now that we can look at Words from a new angle, let's see what comes up. Yes, audacity!
Let's start a list of topics related to the theme.
01/25/2012 -- Yes, still at it. Ready to be more audacious. What we're looking for has to do with mind; at some point, it will be allowed by science that we can observe effects (actually, predict, to boot - one step forward will be a more insightful mathematics).
08/05/2009 -- We're still looking at Words, in Perfection, as a continuation toward the Operational.
07/16/2009 -- The list is mostly a set of todo topics.
Words are, have purpose, cause effects (yes), and much more. They are essential to science, yet we know that an abundance of words is not condoned and that deeds ought to outnumber words (the italics mark a paraphrase). Well, that Words is in the Teleological grouping is very significant. Next up? The Operational where then activity is implicit.
From a model theoretic sense, think structure versus behavior (or function). SAQ talks about the long times involved in the development of the states that are necessary for emergence (using the modern vernacular here). Yes, probably longer than the materialistic view computes (easily stated since its in the Tablets that time is endless, being are beyond our counting, and essentially we need a mechanism to handle that (it's a topological matter, again covered in SAQ #37).
Modified: 01/25/2012
Month, Day: Words, Beauty (Justice)
Gosh, Mercy is gone, but we're not abandoned. The Teleological continues.
And, now that we can look at Words from a new angle, let's see what comes up. Yes, audacity!
Let's start a list of topics related to the theme.
- Manifestation, LOGOS, ..., see SAQ #38.
- Nature
- Science, mathematics
- Law and order
- Culture
- Communication, such as the blog and more, though YouTube brings in the visual.
- Dan Seals as one of those can put together a string of words with a melody and then demonstrate what we really need to understand better in our quest for knowledge
- Prayer
- Dreams
- Names
- ...
01/25/2012 -- Yes, still at it. Ready to be more audacious. What we're looking for has to do with mind; at some point, it will be allowed by science that we can observe effects (actually, predict, to boot - one step forward will be a more insightful mathematics).
08/05/2009 -- We're still looking at Words, in Perfection, as a continuation toward the Operational.
07/16/2009 -- The list is mostly a set of todo topics.
Words are, have purpose, cause effects (yes), and much more. They are essential to science, yet we know that an abundance of words is not condoned and that deeds ought to outnumber words (the italics mark a paraphrase). Well, that Words is in the Teleological grouping is very significant. Next up? The Operational where then activity is implicit.
From a model theoretic sense, think structure versus behavior (or function). SAQ talks about the long times involved in the development of the states that are necessary for emergence (using the modern vernacular here). Yes, probably longer than the materialistic view computes (easily stated since its in the Tablets that time is endless, being are beyond our counting, and essentially we need a mechanism to handle that (it's a topological matter, again covered in SAQ #37).
Modified: 01/25/2012
Wednesday, December 17, 2008
Science by another Name
Month, Day: Questions, Mercy (Justice)
One might say that science has been interloped. Consider what might be an endeavor based upon a topsy-turvy view starting from Creation and what this might allow us to know. That is, a mathematics founded thusly for starters.
SAQ #37: Therefore, reflect that different peoples of the world are revolving around imaginations and are worshipers of the idols of thoughts and conjectures. They are not aware of this; they consider their imaginations to be the Reality which is withdrawn from all comprehension and purified from all descriptions. They regard themselves as the people of Unity, and the others as worshipers of idols; but idols at least have a mineral existence, while the idols of thoughts and the imaginations of man are but fancies; they have not even mineral existence. “Take heed ye who are endued with discernment.”
Remarks:
12/07/2009 -- Motivational musings, especially topology.
Modified: 12/07/2009
One might say that science has been interloped. Consider what might be an endeavor based upon a topsy-turvy view starting from Creation and what this might allow us to know. That is, a mathematics founded thusly for starters.
SAQ #37: Therefore, reflect that different peoples of the world are revolving around imaginations and are worshipers of the idols of thoughts and conjectures. They are not aware of this; they consider their imaginations to be the Reality which is withdrawn from all comprehension and purified from all descriptions. They regard themselves as the people of Unity, and the others as worshipers of idols; but idols at least have a mineral existence, while the idols of thoughts and the imaginations of man are but fancies; they have not even mineral existence. “Take heed ye who are endued with discernment.”
Remarks:
12/07/2009 -- Motivational musings, especially topology.
Modified: 12/07/2009
Wednesday, December 3, 2008
7 Valleys: True Poverty and Absolute Nothingness
Month, Day: Speech, Will (Justice)
Continuing with the series on the 7 Valleys that has these four entries.
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True Poverty and Absolute Nothingness --
Again, a big Valley.
Earlier, "camphor" was mentioned earlier in relation to the madonna/child experience. However, for adults, some who meditate know of this.
12/23/2009 -- About the chordal.
Modified: 12/23/2009
Continuing with the series on the 7 Valleys that has these four entries.
- Search, Love
- Knowledge, Unity
- Contentment, Wonderment
- True Poverty and Absolute Nothingness
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True Poverty and Absolute Nothingness --
Again, a big Valley.
Earlier, "camphor" was mentioned earlier in relation to the madonna/child experience. However, for adults, some who meditate know of this.
- Why is it that there is no explicit discipline, within the Faith, oriented to attaining a spiritual life that makes use of "camphor"? Will these arise?
- It may relate to the Cave, see Second Valley page.
- However, we are told to pray, reflect, etc.
- Consider, humans can demonstrate flow (physically, mentally, ...) that is extremely effective in which state being is of essence (poverty and nothingness, indeed).
- Did I mention topology?
- Science is not, by necessity, heart-less.
12/23/2009 -- About the chordal.
Modified: 12/23/2009
Monday, November 24, 2008
7 Valleys: Knowledge, Unity
Month, Day: Speech, Glory (Perfection)
Continuing with the series on the 7 Valleys that has these four entries.
The original is a meditation from about 12 years ago. Comments are found in italics.
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Knowledge --
Unity is where the heart, lungs, and the solar plexus have established themselves. Also as we get to the 7th and talk of camphor, consider how spiritually unified must be the infant/mother link (Hidden Words #29, Persian).
Modified: 12/03/2008
Continuing with the series on the 7 Valleys that has these four entries.
The original is a meditation from about 12 years ago. Comments are found in italics.
---
Knowledge --
- “And thus did we show Abraham the Kingdom of the Heavens and of the Earth, that He might be established in knowledge.”
Unity is where the heart, lungs, and the solar plexus have established themselves. Also as we get to the 7th and talk of camphor, consider how spiritually unified must be the infant/mother link (Hidden Words #29, Persian).
- Both of the genders have the opportunity to partake of such a sacramental union.
What else does Unity give us? Well, intellectually, it is full of ideas for the modern mind. We see some inklings about topology, for instance; and there is an emphasis on 4.
- First/last is just ripe with significances related to the arguments of "intuitionism" in the philosophy of mathematics.
- Seen/hidden has much to do with views that can come out of category theory. This is further seen as an important issue in computer science.
Yet, such associations being mentioned by no means should be taken as leave to put trivial bounds on these 4. Putting words to concepts, and linking them to known phenomenon, somehow begins to put bounds on usage and makes us begin to filter out what could be very important aspects. Soon, these filtered out things are denied.
- Is this not what happens with any socialization, e.g. the attainment of scientific knowledge?
- Look at the message on how our perceptions can differ (paragraphs 2-7).
- What we need is to get back up to those more ethereal regions, with audacity.
- How can this be done without the Writings?
Modified: 12/03/2008
Saturday, October 18, 2008
From Whence
Month, Day: Knowledge, Beauty (Glory)
We know that knowledge is from God, and that there are two main ways to know (SAQ).
Humans seems to want one over the other; the science side is constructive, requires work and is testable; on the other side, Revelation is a function of time and is not testable, in the usual sense.
There are many constructs of science to discuss, however the construct named 'meme' can be used for issues related to knowledge, to how generations progress in development, and so forth. Yet, those who postulate the meme cannot bear to accept that God can be part of the equation, to boot.
How? Well, that is our challenge; there are many avenues that are possible, including using the Writings prepositionally (even propositionally, or do we need a different concept for this application issue?).
On the Revelation side, we know that the Manifestation is periodic; between those events, what we might call small 'r' revelation is from the Manifestation. Nevertheless, this more spiritual side needs attention, albeit through action many times. The main challenge is how spirit and science ought to interplay.
For one thing, a new look at mathematics will be on the table. Some statements in the SAQ are very much topological in nature.
Remarks:
12/07/2009 -- Motivational musings, especially topology.
Modified: 12/07/2009
We know that knowledge is from God, and that there are two main ways to know (SAQ).
Humans seems to want one over the other; the science side is constructive, requires work and is testable; on the other side, Revelation is a function of time and is not testable, in the usual sense.
There are many constructs of science to discuss, however the construct named 'meme' can be used for issues related to knowledge, to how generations progress in development, and so forth. Yet, those who postulate the meme cannot bear to accept that God can be part of the equation, to boot.
How? Well, that is our challenge; there are many avenues that are possible, including using the Writings prepositionally (even propositionally, or do we need a different concept for this application issue?).
On the Revelation side, we know that the Manifestation is periodic; between those events, what we might call small 'r' revelation is from the Manifestation. Nevertheless, this more spiritual side needs attention, albeit through action many times. The main challenge is how spirit and science ought to interplay.
For one thing, a new look at mathematics will be on the table. Some statements in the SAQ are very much topological in nature.
Remarks:
12/07/2009 -- Motivational musings, especially topology.
Modified: 12/07/2009
Monday, September 1, 2008
Names are
Month, Day: Names, Power (Perfection)
We'll keep the sufficiency discussion going by taking a meandering path for awhile. The road to truth may be straight, yet some side-trips are allowed (that we're given science as a means to know necessitates such [ah, Independence, for us, free will]).
In the progression of months, there has to be some meaning embedded in the sequence. Why? Nothing is random, essentially, though there are quasi-random processes that keep us within our limits. Now, whether or not we can discern what the meaning might be is one issue.
Another support for this notion is the Valley of Contentment (they eat of the endless bounties of inner significances) using the knowledge that we are part of and do not encompass Creation.
So, we can use the myriad potential permutations as inspiration to contemplate the Oceans that have been opened to our exploration with the advent of the Baha'i Revelation.
So, that Words and Names are symmetric around Perfection is very interesting. Of course, the former leads to ponder LOGOS and much more. The latter, from one viewpoint, is very much related to that world view that arises out of mathematical and computational efforts. How to show this is very much on the plate, and the topic does relate to the notions about sufficiency.
In our trek toward abstraction, which we can see this type of thinking as growing from way back in the past and accelerating from the works of 17th century minds onward to now, we loft ourselves, essentially, into a growing maze of groundless speculation. Okay, perhaps that is too strong; yet, that the epitome of thinking pushes us toward the loose mindset (relativity, unstructured) has to be explained somehow.
And, criticism without some notion of alternatives is as worthless as the groundless speculation. That is where Names comes in; but, Names, as we see in it being part of a collective, is not alone, nor sufficient. Names brings structure in several ways; such is imperative to our foundations.
Even though Creation-oriented thinking leads to a change is foundations, use of this respects the notions raised by the arguments of the quasi-empiricists and is operationally sound. The aforementioned audacity would be necessary due to the current climate that mocks any but the most extreme materialistic viewpoints.
The main question to ask is, how is it necessary that abstractionistic thinking leads to materialistic outcomes? Would not the spaces and structures that are the most powerful rest better on something that was revealed?
Ad hominen attacks against those struggling to turn the divinely inspired into the understandable demonstrate more the weakness of those lofting the attacks than it undermines the source motivating the studies to found a better ontology.
By the way, the motivation of all this is not to found some spiritual-based science; rather, it is to put a firmer foundation under our tenuous structures which are shaky from several sides (that things are not as firm as they could be is arguable, however it cannot be refuted); and, it might be said that some of the shakiness is in the design (Perfection has been misconstrued which will be part of the sufficiency discussions).
Remarks:
08/14/2009 -- We're starting the Operational, soon.
Modified: 08/14/2009
We'll keep the sufficiency discussion going by taking a meandering path for awhile. The road to truth may be straight, yet some side-trips are allowed (that we're given science as a means to know necessitates such [ah, Independence, for us, free will]).
In the progression of months, there has to be some meaning embedded in the sequence. Why? Nothing is random, essentially, though there are quasi-random processes that keep us within our limits. Now, whether or not we can discern what the meaning might be is one issue.
Another support for this notion is the Valley of Contentment (they eat of the endless bounties of inner significances) using the knowledge that we are part of and do not encompass Creation.
So, we can use the myriad potential permutations as inspiration to contemplate the Oceans that have been opened to our exploration with the advent of the Baha'i Revelation.
So, that Words and Names are symmetric around Perfection is very interesting. Of course, the former leads to ponder LOGOS and much more. The latter, from one viewpoint, is very much related to that world view that arises out of mathematical and computational efforts. How to show this is very much on the plate, and the topic does relate to the notions about sufficiency.
In our trek toward abstraction, which we can see this type of thinking as growing from way back in the past and accelerating from the works of 17th century minds onward to now, we loft ourselves, essentially, into a growing maze of groundless speculation. Okay, perhaps that is too strong; yet, that the epitome of thinking pushes us toward the loose mindset (relativity, unstructured) has to be explained somehow.
And, criticism without some notion of alternatives is as worthless as the groundless speculation. That is where Names comes in; but, Names, as we see in it being part of a collective, is not alone, nor sufficient. Names brings structure in several ways; such is imperative to our foundations.
Even though Creation-oriented thinking leads to a change is foundations, use of this respects the notions raised by the arguments of the quasi-empiricists and is operationally sound. The aforementioned audacity would be necessary due to the current climate that mocks any but the most extreme materialistic viewpoints.
The main question to ask is, how is it necessary that abstractionistic thinking leads to materialistic outcomes? Would not the spaces and structures that are the most powerful rest better on something that was revealed?
Ad hominen attacks against those struggling to turn the divinely inspired into the understandable demonstrate more the weakness of those lofting the attacks than it undermines the source motivating the studies to found a better ontology.
By the way, the motivation of all this is not to found some spiritual-based science; rather, it is to put a firmer foundation under our tenuous structures which are shaky from several sides (that things are not as firm as they could be is arguable, however it cannot be refuted); and, it might be said that some of the shakiness is in the design (Perfection has been misconstrued which will be part of the sufficiency discussions).
Remarks:
08/14/2009 -- We're starting the Operational, soon.
Modified: 08/14/2009
Sunday, August 24, 2008
Sufficiency, by necessity
Month, Day: Names, Grandeur (Glory)
Earlier, a post pondered sufficiency as it might relate to the Writings as a BASIS for science. There would still be the observational framework to which the modern mind has become attached. Yet, we could look at problems such as this one.
In the Second Valley, we find this: If a man could know what lieth hid in this one verse, it would suffice him. Wherefore, in praise of such as these, He hath said: “Men whom neither merchandise nor traffic beguile from the remembrance of God….”
Essentially, we would find a world view that is not shakeable, even if provisional in the true sense (discussed below). Is not such a view sought by many?
So, let's look at the referenced verse from the Second Valley:
Fourthly, ..., but, we have been counseled to not look too much to the past. So, there must be some key there that does have some operational power but that is easy to overlook.
Well, this could be several things. We can start by asking some questions and by trying to review these in coming posts.
What about the notion that there is something that could be called, by analogy, a principle vector (sun movement depicting facing north) that suggests other than a relativistic view of the universe (and universes)? How could this come into play?
Could there be, for instance, a change to mathematics and computation where actual physical entities (Creation) provide the foundational framework? Ah, but is not that already partly understood by some?
Fifthly, the Surah of the Cave brings in the fact that one cannot predict tomorrow's outcome (Say not thou of a thing, " I will surely do it to-morrow;" without , "If God will." And when thou hast forgotten, call thy Lord to mind; and say, "Haply my Lord will guide me, that I may come near to the truth of this story with correctness." 23)
What could that say about risk management and some other modern processes dealing with uncertainty?
Remarks:
05/26/2011 -- A 'super' position can have merit.
04/04/2011 -- We'll be looking at things like foreknowledge.
02/24/2010 -- Ascendant to Transcendent.
12/07/2009 -- Motivational musings, especially topology.
10/11/2009 -- Will, an operational imperative for science.
10/02/2009 -- World embracing, at its best.
08/05/2009 -- We'll look at SAQ #37 more in the context of how the Teleological influences.
05/29/2009 -- The Transcendent baffles.
Modified: 05/26/2011
Earlier, a post pondered sufficiency as it might relate to the Writings as a BASIS for science. There would still be the observational framework to which the modern mind has become attached. Yet, we could look at problems such as this one.
In the Second Valley, we find this: If a man could know what lieth hid in this one verse, it would suffice him. Wherefore, in praise of such as these, He hath said: “Men whom neither merchandise nor traffic beguile from the remembrance of God….”
Essentially, we would find a world view that is not shakeable, even if provisional in the true sense (discussed below). Is not such a view sought by many?
So, let's look at the referenced verse from the Second Valley:
- The mystery treasured in this plane is divulged in the following holy verse from the Súrih of THE CAVE:
- “And thou mightest have seen the sun when it arose, pass on the right of their cave, and when it set, leave them on the left, while they were in its spacious chamber. This is one of the signs of God. Guided indeed is he whom God guideth; but for him whom He misleadeth, thou shalt by no means find a patron.”
Fourthly, ..., but, we have been counseled to not look too much to the past. So, there must be some key there that does have some operational power but that is easy to overlook.
Well, this could be several things. We can start by asking some questions and by trying to review these in coming posts.
What about the notion that there is something that could be called, by analogy, a principle vector (sun movement depicting facing north) that suggests other than a relativistic view of the universe (and universes)? How could this come into play?
Could there be, for instance, a change to mathematics and computation where actual physical entities (Creation) provide the foundational framework? Ah, but is not that already partly understood by some?
Fifthly, the Surah of the Cave brings in the fact that one cannot predict tomorrow's outcome (Say not thou of a thing, " I will surely do it to-morrow;" without , "If God will." And when thou hast forgotten, call thy Lord to mind; and say, "Haply my Lord will guide me, that I may come near to the truth of this story with correctness." 23)
What could that say about risk management and some other modern processes dealing with uncertainty?
Remarks:
05/26/2011 -- A 'super' position can have merit.
04/04/2011 -- We'll be looking at things like foreknowledge.
02/24/2010 -- Ascendant to Transcendent.
12/07/2009 -- Motivational musings, especially topology.
10/11/2009 -- Will, an operational imperative for science.
10/02/2009 -- World embracing, at its best.
08/05/2009 -- We'll look at SAQ #37 more in the context of how the Teleological influences.
05/29/2009 -- The Transcendent baffles.
Modified: 05/26/2011
Tuesday, August 19, 2008
Toward Names
Month, Day: Perfection, Loftiness (Grace)
Names is up next which can lead to all sorts of operational thoughts, related to categories, abstract types, and the like.
A final Perfection entry for the year might be this topological notion.
SAQ #37: We affirm these names and attributes, not to prove the perfections of God, but to deny that He is capable of imperfections. ... If the attributes are not identical with the Essence, there must also be a multiplicity of preexistences, and differences between the attributes and the Essence must also exist; and as Preexistence is necessary, therefore, the sequence of preexistences would become infinite. This is an evident error.
Remarks:
12/07/2009 -- Motivational musings, especially topology.
08/05/2009 -- We'll look at SAQ #37 more in the context of how the Teleological influences.
05/29/2009 -- The Transcendent baffles.
Modified: 12/07/2009
Names is up next which can lead to all sorts of operational thoughts, related to categories, abstract types, and the like.
A final Perfection entry for the year might be this topological notion.
SAQ #37: We affirm these names and attributes, not to prove the perfections of God, but to deny that He is capable of imperfections. ... If the attributes are not identical with the Essence, there must also be a multiplicity of preexistences, and differences between the attributes and the Essence must also exist; and as Preexistence is necessary, therefore, the sequence of preexistences would become infinite. This is an evident error.
Remarks:
12/07/2009 -- Motivational musings, especially topology.
08/05/2009 -- We'll look at SAQ #37 more in the context of how the Teleological influences.
05/29/2009 -- The Transcendent baffles.
Modified: 12/07/2009
Thursday, February 28, 2008
Changes and more
Month, Day: Intercalary, 3 of 5 (Majesty)
Given the time, we see lots of talk about change and hope. Well, one difference with a Baha'i view of evolution and the secular is how hope plays with the changes found through time.
`Abdu'l-Bahá covered this topic in several places, but let's take one from the SAQ. First we see that the universe has always been as a Creation of God. Now, for the earth in particular (and that would pertain to the solar system, galaxy, and more, one would suppose), there was a gradual development to what we see now as we look at ourselves and at what's outside the window.
The main theme is that God is (El es Dios). We know that man always was, despite what the status of the physical being might have been through time. That the Manifestations always were is a central idea. How the spiritual helped direct the physical is something to ponder. How far can we push this?
Well, we know that there are limits to what we can know; the quasi-empirical notions seem to point to a situation such that our means of knowing are constraints themselves, including that gift we call mathematics.
A columnist recently noted that one difference between science and religion is that the latter acknowledges the mystery (that those who ponder correctly will see as never ending); that is, what we know is within a bounded sphere within something much larger (no matter now far we push the boundary of the sphere, what is outside remains as large - the sphere does not subsume the whole, this is one error of the secular view).
There are topological ideas needed here. `Abdu'l-Bahá touched upon that, too, in the SAQ ("If the attributes are not identical with the Essence, there must also be a multiplicity of preexistences, and differences between the attributes and the Essence must also exist; and as Preexistence is necessary, therefore, the sequence of preexistences would become infinite. This is an evident error.").
These intercalary times, and the Fast, can help us consider those.
Remarks:
12/07/2009 -- Motivational musings, especially topology.
08/16/2009 -- Science, again.
Modified: 12/07/2009
Given the time, we see lots of talk about change and hope. Well, one difference with a Baha'i view of evolution and the secular is how hope plays with the changes found through time.
`Abdu'l-Bahá covered this topic in several places, but let's take one from the SAQ. First we see that the universe has always been as a Creation of God. Now, for the earth in particular (and that would pertain to the solar system, galaxy, and more, one would suppose), there was a gradual development to what we see now as we look at ourselves and at what's outside the window.
The main theme is that God is (El es Dios). We know that man always was, despite what the status of the physical being might have been through time. That the Manifestations always were is a central idea. How the spiritual helped direct the physical is something to ponder. How far can we push this?
Well, we know that there are limits to what we can know; the quasi-empirical notions seem to point to a situation such that our means of knowing are constraints themselves, including that gift we call mathematics.
A columnist recently noted that one difference between science and religion is that the latter acknowledges the mystery (that those who ponder correctly will see as never ending); that is, what we know is within a bounded sphere within something much larger (no matter now far we push the boundary of the sphere, what is outside remains as large - the sphere does not subsume the whole, this is one error of the secular view).
There are topological ideas needed here. `Abdu'l-Bahá touched upon that, too, in the SAQ ("If the attributes are not identical with the Essence, there must also be a multiplicity of preexistences, and differences between the attributes and the Essence must also exist; and as Preexistence is necessary, therefore, the sequence of preexistences would become infinite. This is an evident error.").
These intercalary times, and the Fast, can help us consider those.
Remarks:
12/07/2009 -- Motivational musings, especially topology.
08/16/2009 -- Science, again.
Modified: 12/07/2009
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