Month, Day: 172, Splendour, Speech (Independence)
"The Science of Near-Death Experiences" Yes, The Atlantic, April, 2015. At a conference, there are badges: Speaker, Panelist, Volunteer, Experiencer.
Gosh, how to get people to realize that they can have one in a dream? Valley of Wonderment.
Nowhere have I run into some Baha'i driven worldview that is operationally effective in science. Well, first of all, what is science? What? Afraid to step on the toes of the materialists (or Brights)?
I have often wanted to hear from the staunch deniers after they stepped over. Well, Hitchens responded, for one. After I wrote that original post, my brother passed over. Those two never got together, but my college roommate did. All of these were about the same time frame (birth cohort and terminus loci - we have to get back to symmetry and its use).
Anyway, back to NDEers, many of whom take grief from those with their super-powered microscopes (all types, now mostly of software - ah, opening up things to the genies) who want to see (even if their sense if many levels and filters away from whatever is associated with phenomena): enjoy and learn from your experience even if positive or negative.
Our view is that being far from God is hell (paraphrasing, okay?). Now, one way for that to happen is to be wrapped (now, again, all sorts of world views are talking this).
So, that brings up a question: Can one not know on the other side, as in, not even be aware of the transition? Of course. But, we're not going there, now (the focus is how to bolster science to be as it ought to be).
Remarks: 06/05/2015
04/03/2015 -- We are in the first group by month (Transcendent) and fourth group by day (Motivational).
06/05/2015 -- Reactions to some dreams can be NDE-like in the sense of not wanting to leave. Actually, the aura of a real, grok, type can carry over for long period of time, occupying the mind.
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Friday, April 3, 2015
Wednesday, August 8, 2012
New England
Month, Day: 169, Perfection, Perfection (Justice)
A double day, in an important month.
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This is the 100th anniversary of an unprecedented event. The Master's visit to the U.S. came less than 150 years after its start. Too, given His roles, there are all types of significances. Looking for these can be interesting and instructive.
In terms of time, He spent much more in New York City and Washington DC than any other place. The month out in the west pales when compared with time spent on the east coast. But, the population density was much greater in those eastern realms. The massive buildup on the west coast came a little later. L.A. was still an almost sleepy town, in comparison.
His jaunt up to Montreal was brief, too. There were several visits to Chicago, but the days don't add up that much.
It's nice that the diaries and periodical articles have been organized. Too, we have photos from the time or taken later in an area where the Master visited. So, looking at this collection brings out a lot.
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Now, take New England and its importance. Well, it was the cradle, more than anywhere else in the U.S., of the new nation that was visited by God's representative a mere 100+ years after its inception. And, New England's history will be retold using insights from the Writings (as will a whole bunch of disciplines, once the framework for doing this has been worked out -- it's mathematical, at its basis -- mathematical from an universal sense).
Calling New England the cradle is not warranted? Well, Virginia did play a major role. As well, we have those intermediate states playing a part. Yet, the influx into New England (in other words, The Great Migration, as titled by the NEHGS), for a period of time and from Northern Europe, principally England, surpassed that of the other areas.
The result of this massive influx put into a place a type of social cauldron from which American characteristics were forged. Some of the current problems can be understood within this context. The proper analysis has not been done, as of yet. The blogger is too old to see fruits; just knowing that the studies have an onset would be sufficient.
The 'illustrious' ones of New England came to see the Master, especially the women. It's interesting that His 'hostess' in New England (Mrs. Agnes Parsons) is of an old American family (early entrants, Virginia, in particular). Looking at her diary reads like a social register, almost.
The beauty of the place was well appreciated. In more than one case, the Master mentioned that His Father's imprisonment kept Him from enjoying such wonderful examples of Creation's bounties. Too, there are little things that pop out. He noted (paraphrase) that certain types of social events can corrupt morals. Too, a visit to one of the early players in the military-industrial complex did not go over well. But, He did tell the Canadians that they needed to attend to their defense, that is, being prepared to defend themselves in the coming war (WWI). The story of allowing oneself to be slapped was used in one of the talks.
Of course, reading these things from a diary, by definition, means that one is getting a personal view (hopefully, truthfully written). So, any description found therein that talked about an observation or even a quote (assuming, heard correctly) would be an interpretation (which we know are private).
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Aside: Science is built upon mathematics which requires interpretive inputs at several points. That mathematics is a type of 'truth' that is expressively clear is an insidious overlay from 20th century thinking. In some cases, it's a carry over from the efforts at pushing spirit out of human matters (science is an human endeavor, remember?). Hence, science's basis has an interpretative element. We know that is true, in the small (see earlier post). It's true, too, in the grand, extrapolative scheme. Yet, these types of decisional things get covered up. That is, the mainstream takes it route; other possible avenues get reduced to potential cracker-ism if re-discovered. Now, the Writings may not be a 'propositional' source, yet the Writings do carry sufficient information to found a very sold worldview. How will the definition of this come about?
As said above, the blogger is past his prime. He did work this out 45 years ago. It's worth the effort to found the discussion, in spite of the cries of the conventional. Hence, the blog. Too, the cheeky use of audacity.
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Aside: The blogger has been, during his times, in all of the cities visited by the Master in the U.S. though not always being aware that there had been the Presence. So, it's not like a pilgrimage, but there is a record of this in memory and on the ether. Serendipitous convergence, somewhat.
Remarks:
10/12/2012 -- Mr. Alfred E. Lunt, mentioned in the travel notes, was an early supporter of the Faith.
09/02/2012 -- After the east, the north and west were visited.
08/27/2012 -- Today, we have another type of double day.
Modified: 10/12/2012
A double day, in an important month.
---
This is the 100th anniversary of an unprecedented event. The Master's visit to the U.S. came less than 150 years after its start. Too, given His roles, there are all types of significances. Looking for these can be interesting and instructive.
In terms of time, He spent much more in New York City and Washington DC than any other place. The month out in the west pales when compared with time spent on the east coast. But, the population density was much greater in those eastern realms. The massive buildup on the west coast came a little later. L.A. was still an almost sleepy town, in comparison.
His jaunt up to Montreal was brief, too. There were several visits to Chicago, but the days don't add up that much.
It's nice that the diaries and periodical articles have been organized. Too, we have photos from the time or taken later in an area where the Master visited. So, looking at this collection brings out a lot.
---
Now, take New England and its importance. Well, it was the cradle, more than anywhere else in the U.S., of the new nation that was visited by God's representative a mere 100+ years after its inception. And, New England's history will be retold using insights from the Writings (as will a whole bunch of disciplines, once the framework for doing this has been worked out -- it's mathematical, at its basis -- mathematical from an universal sense).
Calling New England the cradle is not warranted? Well, Virginia did play a major role. As well, we have those intermediate states playing a part. Yet, the influx into New England (in other words, The Great Migration, as titled by the NEHGS), for a period of time and from Northern Europe, principally England, surpassed that of the other areas.
The result of this massive influx put into a place a type of social cauldron from which American characteristics were forged. Some of the current problems can be understood within this context. The proper analysis has not been done, as of yet. The blogger is too old to see fruits; just knowing that the studies have an onset would be sufficient.
The 'illustrious' ones of New England came to see the Master, especially the women. It's interesting that His 'hostess' in New England (Mrs. Agnes Parsons) is of an old American family (early entrants, Virginia, in particular). Looking at her diary reads like a social register, almost.
The beauty of the place was well appreciated. In more than one case, the Master mentioned that His Father's imprisonment kept Him from enjoying such wonderful examples of Creation's bounties. Too, there are little things that pop out. He noted (paraphrase) that certain types of social events can corrupt morals. Too, a visit to one of the early players in the military-industrial complex did not go over well. But, He did tell the Canadians that they needed to attend to their defense, that is, being prepared to defend themselves in the coming war (WWI). The story of allowing oneself to be slapped was used in one of the talks.
Of course, reading these things from a diary, by definition, means that one is getting a personal view (hopefully, truthfully written). So, any description found therein that talked about an observation or even a quote (assuming, heard correctly) would be an interpretation (which we know are private).
---
Aside: Science is built upon mathematics which requires interpretive inputs at several points. That mathematics is a type of 'truth' that is expressively clear is an insidious overlay from 20th century thinking. In some cases, it's a carry over from the efforts at pushing spirit out of human matters (science is an human endeavor, remember?). Hence, science's basis has an interpretative element. We know that is true, in the small (see earlier post). It's true, too, in the grand, extrapolative scheme. Yet, these types of decisional things get covered up. That is, the mainstream takes it route; other possible avenues get reduced to potential cracker-ism if re-discovered. Now, the Writings may not be a 'propositional' source, yet the Writings do carry sufficient information to found a very sold worldview. How will the definition of this come about?
As said above, the blogger is past his prime. He did work this out 45 years ago. It's worth the effort to found the discussion, in spite of the cries of the conventional. Hence, the blog. Too, the cheeky use of audacity.
---
Aside: The blogger has been, during his times, in all of the cities visited by the Master in the U.S. though not always being aware that there had been the Presence. So, it's not like a pilgrimage, but there is a record of this in memory and on the ether. Serendipitous convergence, somewhat.
Remarks:
10/12/2012 -- Mr. Alfred E. Lunt, mentioned in the travel notes, was an early supporter of the Faith.
09/02/2012 -- After the east, the north and west were visited.
08/27/2012 -- Today, we have another type of double day.
Modified: 10/12/2012
Wednesday, May 9, 2012
We are not idempotent?
Month, Day: 169, Beauty, Knowledge (Justice)
There are many ways to discuss this, however let's just consider a few thoughts, for now.
Ever observe how some of the upper classes (to be described, but of many ilks and origins) seem to favor this idea [of specialness]. Abilities are not all the same. We know this, and we know there is good reason [see the Master on economic justice, for instance]. But, too, God especially loves the poor man who doesn't bewail (again, Aqdas, Middle way) [there are many ways to serve; gigantic remuneration is not a necessary attribute of the contributive value].
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In essence, all work is worship. Those who are in the upper crusts ought to respect those who serve them. Those whose lot is to [be a] server ought to do so graciously (perhaps, pondering about kings) [where are the devotional attitudes about work - at its lowest -- written by one who has worked at ALL levels].
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So, where does idempotent come in? As we've learned to abstract better (one of the gifts of the Revelation), we've built up modeling prowess. Of course, that involves definitions and more. We know that stability can be observed in many parts of nature, though it is puzzling just how quickly things can go awry given the right conditions (ever been under a tornado?). Irreversible processes abound. [So, we've discovered several forces that limit:: central tendencies, fixed points, ...]
In human affairs, if the lower ones keep their peace about being exploited, things can go smoothly [ah, think of the afterlife was one counsel by the priestly class]. Those did [keep their peace], for a long while (all sorts of things kept the truth from arising [-- the growing ball and chain of indebtedness camouflaged by supposedly the never-ending ATM of the house]). This last downturn was an example of a house of cards falling down. Those who were most hurt were the ones least responsible for the idiocy (tell it like it is -- and, lessons to be learned were ignored, setting us up for other go-rounds). Those who were responsible, many times, were bailed out [the rogues' mischievous ways continue]. And, they seem to be ready for another bit of games. Again, O Lord, where is the relief from the idiots?
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But, being reflective, we're all individuals, created in the Image (in fact, we're to exhibit the conditions of maturity -- one of which is neither a follower nor leader be). So, things like Independent Investigation of the Truth need attention; how are we to be autodidact, for instance?
In the grand scheme (or, perhaps, from a certain view), we are all 'idempotent' (yet, I suspect not - mind you, we're not talking being non-humble, rather trying to be audacious in opening doors that have been left too long closed) in a sense. Within Their Realm, we're told that They are Idempotent (is not it counseled to consider each [of the Manifestations] as the same Sun[, different place on the horizon of rise]?).
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From another view, we ought to be talking 'residue' (as in, by what degree not idempotent?) which raises the question, against what? Now, that is a Key issue (one role of the Manifestation).
Remarks:
07/20/2015 -- See post Susan Gamage's blog (... Elders find a place ...?). Old or young (makes me think of Cat Stevens - oh sorry - Yusuf)? It was 50 years ago, in May, that I first heard of the Faith (declared 48 years ago, SF). At that time, I was a "youth" (still am, at heart - cannot think that I'm over 18 until I look in a mirror - we're all Children of God, no matter the age). Too, I was iconoclastic; still am (whether that is fortunate or not is an open issue). What I have seen in the past few decades is, up close, that generational dynamics continually swirl (there is the bit (in the Writing) about the sword that makes a cut - one of the later Tablets). Yet, this must be (otherwise, we would have been given means to remove the elders); so, the Faith needs to get with it (actually, the Catholics are ahead of us in that sense -- BTW, my heritage with priests, nuns, what have you -- apple of the Bab's eye). ... This is cursory, mainly meant to leave a pointer to future discussion.
04/03/2015 -- This is a popular post. See NDEers for a bit of audacity.
09/30/2013 -- More of a technical nature.
05/11/2012 -- We can use abstractions; they are never close to the Writings, though, from which we can pull lessons for ourselves and our practices, including science.
Modified: 07/20/2015
There are many ways to discuss this, however let's just consider a few thoughts, for now.
- Masses? Indistinguishable faces in a large crowd? One could go on about humanity in a non-flattering way. History does this [sort of thing]. We have the few who leave some record, are written about, seem to make a splash, and more. Then, we have the innumerable others [6B, more or less]. Well, Christ did talk about several juxtapositions, such as first will be last, and so forth. When we look at bifurcations, though, such as the 1% (or less) and the 99% (or more), this type of thing is evident [measurable deltas and their epsilons]. Yet, put your hand into a crowd, pull one [person] out, and apply a proper measure (we'll get to this later). Everyone [from such sampling] the same? No [many differences, as we all know]. Yet, we can argue that the differences are insignificant [close enough]. So much to pursue in this vein.
- Workers, following the above [bullet]. Are these not mere resources for the exploitation by those with the 'bread' whose collective being is just a bunch of mass? Yes, are these not replaceable entities whose source seems to never dry up, especially when national borders can be breached in order to enlarge the availability (ala the colonization of capitalism)? Put your hand in a bucket of workers? See any difference? [though, we all consider ourselves irreplaceable, in some way]
- Hours, days. Don't they seem to roll into one another? For many, they're the same from day to day, at least during the work week. That is, given the prior bullet, many are in a form of servitude that seems to be interminable [worse than slavehood, in a sense]. Too, somehow, the game as defined (again, by those who have the wherewithal to do so) works toward increasing the bonds [bindings], in other words, the ball and chain of indebtedness. But, we know that each moment is different if only we could see. But, 'exigencies' demand the attentions and the energies, seemingly ad infinitum. Where, O Lord, is the deliverance (or, how to show Valley Four's importance?)?
Ever observe how some of the upper classes (to be described, but of many ilks and origins) seem to favor this idea [of specialness]. Abilities are not all the same. We know this, and we know there is good reason [see the Master on economic justice, for instance]. But, too, God especially loves the poor man who doesn't bewail (again, Aqdas, Middle way) [there are many ways to serve; gigantic remuneration is not a necessary attribute of the contributive value].
---
In essence, all work is worship. Those who are in the upper crusts ought to respect those who serve them. Those whose lot is to [be a] server ought to do so graciously (perhaps, pondering about kings) [where are the devotional attitudes about work - at its lowest -- written by one who has worked at ALL levels].
---
So, where does idempotent come in? As we've learned to abstract better (one of the gifts of the Revelation), we've built up modeling prowess. Of course, that involves definitions and more. We know that stability can be observed in many parts of nature, though it is puzzling just how quickly things can go awry given the right conditions (ever been under a tornado?). Irreversible processes abound. [So, we've discovered several forces that limit:: central tendencies, fixed points, ...]
In human affairs, if the lower ones keep their peace about being exploited, things can go smoothly [ah, think of the afterlife was one counsel by the priestly class]. Those did [keep their peace], for a long while (all sorts of things kept the truth from arising [-- the growing ball and chain of indebtedness camouflaged by supposedly the never-ending ATM of the house]). This last downturn was an example of a house of cards falling down. Those who were most hurt were the ones least responsible for the idiocy (tell it like it is -- and, lessons to be learned were ignored, setting us up for other go-rounds). Those who were responsible, many times, were bailed out [the rogues' mischievous ways continue]. And, they seem to be ready for another bit of games. Again, O Lord, where is the relief from the idiots?
---
But, being reflective, we're all individuals, created in the Image (in fact, we're to exhibit the conditions of maturity -- one of which is neither a follower nor leader be). So, things like Independent Investigation of the Truth need attention; how are we to be autodidact, for instance?
In the grand scheme (or, perhaps, from a certain view), we are all 'idempotent' (yet, I suspect not - mind you, we're not talking being non-humble, rather trying to be audacious in opening doors that have been left too long closed) in a sense. Within Their Realm, we're told that They are Idempotent (is not it counseled to consider each [of the Manifestations] as the same Sun[, different place on the horizon of rise]?).
---
From another view, we ought to be talking 'residue' (as in, by what degree not idempotent?) which raises the question, against what? Now, that is a Key issue (one role of the Manifestation).
Remarks:
07/20/2015 -- See post Susan Gamage's blog (... Elders find a place ...?). Old or young (makes me think of Cat Stevens - oh sorry - Yusuf)? It was 50 years ago, in May, that I first heard of the Faith (declared 48 years ago, SF). At that time, I was a "youth" (still am, at heart - cannot think that I'm over 18 until I look in a mirror - we're all Children of God, no matter the age). Too, I was iconoclastic; still am (whether that is fortunate or not is an open issue). What I have seen in the past few decades is, up close, that generational dynamics continually swirl (there is the bit (in the Writing) about the sword that makes a cut - one of the later Tablets). Yet, this must be (otherwise, we would have been given means to remove the elders); so, the Faith needs to get with it (actually, the Catholics are ahead of us in that sense -- BTW, my heritage with priests, nuns, what have you -- apple of the Bab's eye). ... This is cursory, mainly meant to leave a pointer to future discussion.
04/03/2015 -- This is a popular post. See NDEers for a bit of audacity.
09/30/2013 -- More of a technical nature.
05/11/2012 -- We can use abstractions; they are never close to the Writings, though, from which we can pull lessons for ourselves and our practices, including science.
Modified: 07/20/2015
Sunday, March 11, 2012
Reckoner II
Month, Day: 168, Loftiness, Might (Glory)
We're into the Operational of the Groups. It is nice, since the whole thing implies doing something (action). Except, it starts out with Names which relates to structure (does it not?). Also, we're heading to the new release of our measure.
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Gosh, we've been about three years away from the technical, so it's time. For instance, Reckoner was used in the context of some ACM work. Now, thanks to it being the 100th (ACM's coverage) of Alan M. Turing, we can get back to this and be a little more serious (and audacious).
One of the articles is by Leeds' professor S. Barry Cooper and is titled (1912 focus): Turing's Titanic Machine? (fortunately, the article is open to public use) In this article, Prof Cooper runs through the issues related to incomputable which we'll look at in detail. Too, he points to areas that will be of importance.
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As a reminder, the whole audacious theme is a railing against several viewpoints, such as reductionism as it applies to computing. What we see has developed is a framework that is shaky at its core; yet, it shines so much like a chimera as to draw the highly intelligent into its grasp. To paraphrase what I've written elsewhere: with the advance of computation, we have let the genie out of the bottle in an irreversible manner.
One approach here seemed to be a relook at some issues that relate to topology (loosely used).
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Now, this discussion is within the context of Faith & Science. One proposal would be that there be another bullet dealing with computation and nature (however phrased). Surely, there has been some type of study in this area; if not, the fact that we could provide support for the quasi-empirical view from the Writings for fostering a middle-out approach (to wit, blind/delusional polarity) might be a motivation.
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Turing is quoted as saying (see Prof Cooper's article): ...if a machine is expected to be infallible, it cannot also be intelligent. There are several theorems which say almost exactly that.
The discussion page of the Faith & Science article (Wiki) had a go-around about inerrancy (related to infallibility, in part). Consider that the information transfer (you see, all sorts of scientific progress related to computation is useful) implied by instruments, such as the Writings, can be put into a 'machine' concept.Yet, not. That gap is amenable to some type of rectification, albeit limited, which will allow for a better foundational view (why else the emphasis on Science in the Faith?).
Remarks:
08/08/2013 -- Perfection/Perfection.
10/17/2012 -- There is a lot to reflect on, about the trip, especially the western loop.
04/14/2012 -- Thornton Chase is an example of several things that will be discussed this year.
03/30/2012 -- Interesting video on self-transcendence. Pay attention to the last three minutes.
03/11/2012 -- Must mention that psychether will be a central theme. The intuition has been emboldened by the passing of an older brother. I haven't characterized the experience yet, but looking at the CH dreams serves as a proxy until such is attempted.
Modified: 08/08/2013
We're into the Operational of the Groups. It is nice, since the whole thing implies doing something (action). Except, it starts out with Names which relates to structure (does it not?). Also, we're heading to the new release of our measure.
---
Gosh, we've been about three years away from the technical, so it's time. For instance, Reckoner was used in the context of some ACM work. Now, thanks to it being the 100th (ACM's coverage) of Alan M. Turing, we can get back to this and be a little more serious (and audacious).
One of the articles is by Leeds' professor S. Barry Cooper and is titled (1912 focus): Turing's Titanic Machine? (fortunately, the article is open to public use) In this article, Prof Cooper runs through the issues related to incomputable which we'll look at in detail. Too, he points to areas that will be of importance.
---
As a reminder, the whole audacious theme is a railing against several viewpoints, such as reductionism as it applies to computing. What we see has developed is a framework that is shaky at its core; yet, it shines so much like a chimera as to draw the highly intelligent into its grasp. To paraphrase what I've written elsewhere: with the advance of computation, we have let the genie out of the bottle in an irreversible manner.
One approach here seemed to be a relook at some issues that relate to topology (loosely used).
---
Now, this discussion is within the context of Faith & Science. One proposal would be that there be another bullet dealing with computation and nature (however phrased). Surely, there has been some type of study in this area; if not, the fact that we could provide support for the quasi-empirical view from the Writings for fostering a middle-out approach (to wit, blind/delusional polarity) might be a motivation.
---
Turing is quoted as saying (see Prof Cooper's article): ...if a machine is expected to be infallible, it cannot also be intelligent. There are several theorems which say almost exactly that.
The discussion page of the Faith & Science article (Wiki) had a go-around about inerrancy (related to infallibility, in part). Consider that the information transfer (you see, all sorts of scientific progress related to computation is useful) implied by instruments, such as the Writings, can be put into a 'machine' concept.Yet, not. That gap is amenable to some type of rectification, albeit limited, which will allow for a better foundational view (why else the emphasis on Science in the Faith?).
Remarks:
08/08/2013 -- Perfection/Perfection.
10/17/2012 -- There is a lot to reflect on, about the trip, especially the western loop.
04/14/2012 -- Thornton Chase is an example of several things that will be discussed this year.
03/30/2012 -- Interesting video on self-transcendence. Pay attention to the last three minutes.
03/11/2012 -- Must mention that psychether will be a central theme. The intuition has been emboldened by the passing of an older brother. I haven't characterized the experience yet, but looking at the CH dreams serves as a proxy until such is attempted.
Modified: 08/08/2013
Monday, January 23, 2012
About the middle
Month, Day: 168, Sovereignty, Light (Perfection)
I failed to acknowledge the entry into the Ascendant group which came after the close of the Motivational. We still have some of the yearly measure to expend.
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It is very much apropos, to be considering this topic (which deals at its core with Light) on this day. This post is a free-flowing consideration of things to be worked in the audacious mode under the guidance of the Law. The use of 'middle' (the concept comes into play several ways, one example) implies several things, but one of these will be the need to balance any extreme view with its inverse (hypothetical or otherwise) so as to allow means and ends analysis.
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There will be a continuation of looking at lessons from one life as CH's work showed us many. For one, he saw that "no man" stood in need of his neighbor. Hence, his railing against those in power who like to follow their corrupt inclinations.
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That religion is full of people who think that their power gives them privileges is one problem. Of course, those who are touting the other side (Brights) can be as strident and overbearing. That is, look at any of the forums and see how particular insightful presentations are rejected and labeled as the babbling of an idiot (or delusional person). One problem is that we cannot expect any help, in the sense needed by the unseeing, from those who went over no matter how much insight they may have attained on dropping the physical self (see CH link, above).
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So, we're at a crux that seems to be related to a gap that is widening faster than Krauss says that we're seeing with the universe. It's nice to see the clear-thinking oasis being developed. From cursory reading of discussions (if one can use that term) at the site, the comments and arguments of many seem to be full of vitriol and ad hominen attacks. But, then, that is not any different than we see elsewhere.
Where is there a calm, rational exchange on these matters that has some hope of effectiveness?
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Our task here is, in part, to establish the method to operationally effect a symmetry-based balance between science and religion. Many have this in mind, too. There are plenty of ways to go about this business; we'll start small by trying to establish a basis from which to construct. The gap exists since we all have a choice.
One view would say that the choice ought not get us far off of a fence. Actually, that is too linear of a metaphor, as the thing would be more fuzzy, allowing some nuances. Why? Because, we are allowed to Question.
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I read at one site how the theoretical-empirical split can be problematic. Or, one might even use pure and applied, as in mathematics. Now, those are a form of symmetric relations, too, though I haven't seen anyone use the notion (would love to hear otherwise). For some (many?), being on the left end (as in a pair) denotes being smarter (ah, is that so?, perhaps, in certain ways).
Now, let's look at religion. How would there be a similar mix? We already alluded, indirectly, to the clergy and laity (however, characterized) split. In the past, perhaps even now in some loci, those who had access to the books (Books), since they could read, had the advantage. Then, it (the favored) became related to advancing on the clergy's hierarchy (to where?). By the way, England (and Europe) had major battles about the Bible's translation (many burned on the several sides). But, getting the text into the common language did wonders.
Another way to look at this is that the 'theoretic' basis of religion is set by Revelation. We won't have that, again, for 900 years. Yet, we have had many, many occurrences from the past which have not been exhausted (hence, the admonition now to deal peacefully with ALL religions). So, collectively, there is a whole bunch that needs to be understood in terms of its usefulness to a scientific framework (yes - give me time to show this - if you have a knee-jerk reaction, take it elsewhere). One thing that will need to be looked at is how the U.H.J. might be involved with undecidable points (to be defined, later).
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Pascal learned his lesson this side of paradise. We will continue to have him in mind as we proceed. Note, that we'll try to re-phrase his challenge in a way that is compatible with the message here. Hints: dreams can become a tool for our use; our ancestors (source for some memes -- yes) ought not be forgotten.
Blaise was 200 years prior to the Twin Days. Immanuel was a mere 100 years. Both of these are important to our foundational efforts (to be discussed). So, we'll be using them early. The idea is to establish 'reflection' as a means to pull out the power of symmetry (again, coming as some point) for the purposes of a peaceful, and knowledgeable, future.
Finally, we were told not to look back. But, that, to me, implied beyond some reasonable limit (hopefully, cosmology can be updated thusly). So, we can reflect back, and understand, about all of science's knowledge in terms of mankind's growing prowess (or, if you would, see where we may have missed something -- I have examples that I'll use from time to time -- all situational filters are subject to such types of analysis -- Ockham notwithstanding).
Remarks:
04/03/2015 -- This is a popular post. See NDEers for a bit of audacity.
04/14/2012 -- Thornton Chase is an example of several things that will be discussed this year.
01/29/2012 -- CD is concurrent with the Twin Days' span of influence.
Modified: 04/03/2015
I failed to acknowledge the entry into the Ascendant group which came after the close of the Motivational. We still have some of the yearly measure to expend.
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It is very much apropos, to be considering this topic (which deals at its core with Light) on this day. This post is a free-flowing consideration of things to be worked in the audacious mode under the guidance of the Law. The use of 'middle' (the concept comes into play several ways, one example) implies several things, but one of these will be the need to balance any extreme view with its inverse (hypothetical or otherwise) so as to allow means and ends analysis.
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There will be a continuation of looking at lessons from one life as CH's work showed us many. For one, he saw that "no man" stood in need of his neighbor. Hence, his railing against those in power who like to follow their corrupt inclinations.
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That religion is full of people who think that their power gives them privileges is one problem. Of course, those who are touting the other side (Brights) can be as strident and overbearing. That is, look at any of the forums and see how particular insightful presentations are rejected and labeled as the babbling of an idiot (or delusional person). One problem is that we cannot expect any help, in the sense needed by the unseeing, from those who went over no matter how much insight they may have attained on dropping the physical self (see CH link, above).
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So, we're at a crux that seems to be related to a gap that is widening faster than Krauss says that we're seeing with the universe. It's nice to see the clear-thinking oasis being developed. From cursory reading of discussions (if one can use that term) at the site, the comments and arguments of many seem to be full of vitriol and ad hominen attacks. But, then, that is not any different than we see elsewhere.
Where is there a calm, rational exchange on these matters that has some hope of effectiveness?
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Our task here is, in part, to establish the method to operationally effect a symmetry-based balance between science and religion. Many have this in mind, too. There are plenty of ways to go about this business; we'll start small by trying to establish a basis from which to construct. The gap exists since we all have a choice.
One view would say that the choice ought not get us far off of a fence. Actually, that is too linear of a metaphor, as the thing would be more fuzzy, allowing some nuances. Why? Because, we are allowed to Question.
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I read at one site how the theoretical-empirical split can be problematic. Or, one might even use pure and applied, as in mathematics. Now, those are a form of symmetric relations, too, though I haven't seen anyone use the notion (would love to hear otherwise). For some (many?), being on the left end (as in a pair) denotes being smarter (ah, is that so?, perhaps, in certain ways).
Now, let's look at religion. How would there be a similar mix? We already alluded, indirectly, to the clergy and laity (however, characterized) split. In the past, perhaps even now in some loci, those who had access to the books (Books), since they could read, had the advantage. Then, it (the favored) became related to advancing on the clergy's hierarchy (to where?). By the way, England (and Europe) had major battles about the Bible's translation (many burned on the several sides). But, getting the text into the common language did wonders.
Another way to look at this is that the 'theoretic' basis of religion is set by Revelation. We won't have that, again, for 900 years. Yet, we have had many, many occurrences from the past which have not been exhausted (hence, the admonition now to deal peacefully with ALL religions). So, collectively, there is a whole bunch that needs to be understood in terms of its usefulness to a scientific framework (yes - give me time to show this - if you have a knee-jerk reaction, take it elsewhere). One thing that will need to be looked at is how the U.H.J. might be involved with undecidable points (to be defined, later).
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Pascal learned his lesson this side of paradise. We will continue to have him in mind as we proceed. Note, that we'll try to re-phrase his challenge in a way that is compatible with the message here. Hints: dreams can become a tool for our use; our ancestors (source for some memes -- yes) ought not be forgotten.
Blaise was 200 years prior to the Twin Days. Immanuel was a mere 100 years. Both of these are important to our foundational efforts (to be discussed). So, we'll be using them early. The idea is to establish 'reflection' as a means to pull out the power of symmetry (again, coming as some point) for the purposes of a peaceful, and knowledgeable, future.
Finally, we were told not to look back. But, that, to me, implied beyond some reasonable limit (hopefully, cosmology can be updated thusly). So, we can reflect back, and understand, about all of science's knowledge in terms of mankind's growing prowess (or, if you would, see where we may have missed something -- I have examples that I'll use from time to time -- all situational filters are subject to such types of analysis -- Ockham notwithstanding).
Remarks:
04/03/2015 -- This is a popular post. See NDEers for a bit of audacity.
04/14/2012 -- Thornton Chase is an example of several things that will be discussed this year.
01/29/2012 -- CD is concurrent with the Twin Days' span of influence.
Modified: 04/03/2015
Sunday, August 28, 2011
Operational, again
Month, Day: 168, Names, Names (Beauty)
We are done with the first two groups, finally arriving at the Operational. There is much of significance to look here. But, we have four months to do so, and we see the cycle with every month. Too, we're nearing half of our yearly measure.
SAQ #3: He must also impart spiritual education, so that intelligence and comprehension may penetrate the metaphysical world, and may receive benefit from the sanctifying breeze of the Holy Spirit, and may enter into relationship with the Supreme Concourse. He must so educate the human reality that it may become the center of the divine appearance, to such a degree that the attributes and the names of God shall be resplendent in the mirror of the reality of man, and the holy verse “We will make man in Our image and likeness” shall be realized.
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Thought: Creation implies structure which implies names and, as well, the operational properties.
Remarks:
08/28/2011 --
Modified: 08/28/2011
We are done with the first two groups, finally arriving at the Operational. There is much of significance to look here. But, we have four months to do so, and we see the cycle with every month. Too, we're nearing half of our yearly measure.
SAQ #3: He must also impart spiritual education, so that intelligence and comprehension may penetrate the metaphysical world, and may receive benefit from the sanctifying breeze of the Holy Spirit, and may enter into relationship with the Supreme Concourse. He must so educate the human reality that it may become the center of the divine appearance, to such a degree that the attributes and the names of God shall be resplendent in the mirror of the reality of man, and the holy verse “We will make man in Our image and likeness” shall be realized.
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Thought: Creation implies structure which implies names and, as well, the operational properties.
Remarks:
08/28/2011 --
Modified: 08/28/2011
Thursday, March 31, 2011
Foreknowledge
Month, Day: 168, Splendour, Will (Majesty)
That, in the title, is one attribute that is human and shared with the Manifestation. Too, the Manifestation has a much greater facility, beyond what we can comprehend. Yet, we can contemplate these facilities in an effort to improve ourselves and our work, such as science. How is that?
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Well, this blog started in 2008, in sort of a recoil. From what? Limitations being put up upon that which was on wiki related to science and faith (see Mission and Methods). Since then, there have been a few posts here that related to the subject page (faith and science, science and religion). But mostly, I've only browsed the page (and the arguments) from time to time.
How did I get back to the page today? Well, on the 5th read of the Koran (Rodwell this time, again), I've been going to the WWW (which has really matured the past five years) to look more thoroughly at topics (beyond the mere listening to experts - autodidactic'ally, okay?). The topic in question was 'djinn' and such. And, while looking at definitions, I ran across a page that mentioned the notions from an esteemed nuclear engineer (see below), who is of the Islamic faith.
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You can look it up, but here is the gist: we can probably develop power sources using concentrated attention by humans (for those who quibble, interpretation is core to the human experience [why else the emphasis on its control, for certain types?]).
Or, as an aside, we are immersed in an objective universe (SAQ #79), yet for each of us, the experience is subjective (ah, science CANNOT overcome this, folks -- teehee). Some think the guy is nuts; I think that he exhibits several things that we (those who are followers of the Glory) ought to be studying (as in, there is a glimmer of truth here that we ought to understand). Ah, how many barbs of quackery will be thrown on this (but then, George B took his licks, too)?
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So, back to the subject. The page, mentioned above, has evolved. It now has more than the three topics that were there five years ago (look it up). In fact, a couple may have been challenged (I haven't paid close attention).
But, the list has a bias toward the physical sciences being the prime view for any ontological study. Ah. Is that so? We have allowed materialistic views to, essentially, lead us down the perdition-laden paths to mineralization. Think of it!
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As mentioned last time, we need to bring in themes from human-based science, to boot. What might these be? Well, it'll be a long list.
For one, the notion of foreknowledge (Valley of Wonderment, for example) goes beyond just that in the sacred texts. Consider, please: some types of this could be characterized as a human reaction (albeit, imaginatively) to pondering some bit of this sacred text (example of Scripture influencing science via inspired behavior).
---
As an aside, the oversight allowed via abstraction, and its support by mathematics, gives a view that can be thought of as foresight (how does that differ from foreknowledge?). Many examples exist, but some of the work of James Clerk Maxwell is used quite often, in this sense.
I think that many, like Lakatos, have not been given enough due (the whole quasi-empirical notion can be bolstered by using the Writings).
---
Actually, the enumeration of human facilities would be endless (as is the Ocean of Words). Yet, there could be themes (categories, if you would) that are of substantial enough basis to be almost invariant.
Granted Wikipedia is NOR. But, what work has been done that could be used as source? Anyone even looking?
Let me put it this way. The assaults (potential or otherwise) of the brights ought not be a deterrent.
A new type of operational basis needs to be defined and exercised.
---
And, the whole notion of the texts being inerrant, or not, in this context can be characterized as misguided, somewhat. The 7V and the 4V, clearly, denote the limitations on words, but not Words.
Remarks:
01/25/2012 -- Yes, still at it. Ready to be more audacious. What we're looking for has to do with mind; at some point, it will be allowed by science that we can observe effects (actually, predict, to boot - one step forward will be a more insightful mathematics).
06/02/2011 -- Construction II.
05/26/2011 -- A 'super' position can have merit.
05/17/2011 -- Stephen gets press.
05/09/2011 -- We need a constructive re-look.
04/04/2011 -- The autodidact's role is still to be defined.
Modified: 01/25/2012
That, in the title, is one attribute that is human and shared with the Manifestation. Too, the Manifestation has a much greater facility, beyond what we can comprehend. Yet, we can contemplate these facilities in an effort to improve ourselves and our work, such as science. How is that?
----
Well, this blog started in 2008, in sort of a recoil. From what? Limitations being put up upon that which was on wiki related to science and faith (see Mission and Methods). Since then, there have been a few posts here that related to the subject page (faith and science, science and religion). But mostly, I've only browsed the page (and the arguments) from time to time.
How did I get back to the page today? Well, on the 5th read of the Koran (Rodwell this time, again), I've been going to the WWW (which has really matured the past five years) to look more thoroughly at topics (beyond the mere listening to experts - autodidactic'ally, okay?). The topic in question was 'djinn' and such. And, while looking at definitions, I ran across a page that mentioned the notions from an esteemed nuclear engineer (see below), who is of the Islamic faith.
---
You can look it up, but here is the gist: we can probably develop power sources using concentrated attention by humans (for those who quibble, interpretation is core to the human experience [why else the emphasis on its control, for certain types?]).
Or, as an aside, we are immersed in an objective universe (SAQ #79), yet for each of us, the experience is subjective (ah, science CANNOT overcome this, folks -- teehee). Some think the guy is nuts; I think that he exhibits several things that we (those who are followers of the Glory) ought to be studying (as in, there is a glimmer of truth here that we ought to understand). Ah, how many barbs of quackery will be thrown on this (but then, George B took his licks, too)?
---
So, back to the subject. The page, mentioned above, has evolved. It now has more than the three topics that were there five years ago (look it up). In fact, a couple may have been challenged (I haven't paid close attention).
But, the list has a bias toward the physical sciences being the prime view for any ontological study. Ah. Is that so? We have allowed materialistic views to, essentially, lead us down the perdition-laden paths to mineralization. Think of it!
---
As mentioned last time, we need to bring in themes from human-based science, to boot. What might these be? Well, it'll be a long list.
For one, the notion of foreknowledge (Valley of Wonderment, for example) goes beyond just that in the sacred texts. Consider, please: some types of this could be characterized as a human reaction (albeit, imaginatively) to pondering some bit of this sacred text (example of Scripture influencing science via inspired behavior).
---
As an aside, the oversight allowed via abstraction, and its support by mathematics, gives a view that can be thought of as foresight (how does that differ from foreknowledge?). Many examples exist, but some of the work of James Clerk Maxwell is used quite often, in this sense.
I think that many, like Lakatos, have not been given enough due (the whole quasi-empirical notion can be bolstered by using the Writings).
---
Actually, the enumeration of human facilities would be endless (as is the Ocean of Words). Yet, there could be themes (categories, if you would) that are of substantial enough basis to be almost invariant.
Granted Wikipedia is NOR. But, what work has been done that could be used as source? Anyone even looking?
Let me put it this way. The assaults (potential or otherwise) of the brights ought not be a deterrent.
A new type of operational basis needs to be defined and exercised.
---
And, the whole notion of the texts being inerrant, or not, in this context can be characterized as misguided, somewhat. The 7V and the 4V, clearly, denote the limitations on words, but not Words.
Remarks:
01/25/2012 -- Yes, still at it. Ready to be more audacious. What we're looking for has to do with mind; at some point, it will be allowed by science that we can observe effects (actually, predict, to boot - one step forward will be a more insightful mathematics).
06/02/2011 -- Construction II.
05/26/2011 -- A 'super' position can have merit.
05/17/2011 -- Stephen gets press.
05/09/2011 -- We need a constructive re-look.
04/04/2011 -- The autodidact's role is still to be defined.
Modified: 01/25/2012
Thursday, March 17, 2011
A recurring theme
Month, Day: 167, Loftiness, Honour (Majesty)
Which is? Return.
Aside: Thoughts on the day of commemorating St. Patrick. From this, we can look more closely at the following. Yes, audacity (without arrogance) is important.
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The theme manifests itself several ways that ought to be of interest to science (that is, any reasonable mindset that is not thwarted by scientism).
The mental powers have motivations (yes, one of the Groups) that are spiritual. How does this work? Well, it is for us to work out and understand. The only limitation? We cannot ever reduce to the core, nor can we completely comprehend this; there are other characterizations that we'll get to, eventually.
Koran (The Believers): When death overtaketh one of the wicked, he saith, "Lord, send me back again, That I may do the good which I have left undone." "By no means." These are the very words which he shall speak: But behind them shall be a barrier, until the day when they shall be raised again.
Is not "send me back again" asking for a return? Of course. In this context, we ought to remember the argument proposed by Blaise, a few centuries later. Which argument, by the way, is still scoffed at by some of the brights.
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Now, there was an allusion to recurrence which can be observed, many places, in natural phenomena. Who said that 'return' had simple usages?
So, the subject of the Writings and Science will get more attention. That is, what types of support can found in what is provided by Revelation for our pursuits of knowledge? One might immediately go to rules and axioms. Yes, can these be listed, as a start? What other types might we consider?
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Another theme will be the system person, on the one hand, and the autodidact on the other. Now, there may be other ways to characterize this, as one person may have many different roles in this regard.
Remarks:
05/09/2011 -- We need a constructive re-look.
03/21/2011 -- On Blaise. Will we not see his wager shown to have strong applicability?
Modified: 05/09/2011
Which is? Return.
Aside: Thoughts on the day of commemorating St. Patrick. From this, we can look more closely at the following. Yes, audacity (without arrogance) is important.
----
The theme manifests itself several ways that ought to be of interest to science (that is, any reasonable mindset that is not thwarted by scientism).
The mental powers have motivations (yes, one of the Groups) that are spiritual. How does this work? Well, it is for us to work out and understand. The only limitation? We cannot ever reduce to the core, nor can we completely comprehend this; there are other characterizations that we'll get to, eventually.
Koran (The Believers): When death overtaketh one of the wicked, he saith, "Lord, send me back again, That I may do the good which I have left undone." "By no means." These are the very words which he shall speak: But behind them shall be a barrier, until the day when they shall be raised again.
Is not "send me back again" asking for a return? Of course. In this context, we ought to remember the argument proposed by Blaise, a few centuries later. Which argument, by the way, is still scoffed at by some of the brights.
---
Now, there was an allusion to recurrence which can be observed, many places, in natural phenomena. Who said that 'return' had simple usages?
So, the subject of the Writings and Science will get more attention. That is, what types of support can found in what is provided by Revelation for our pursuits of knowledge? One might immediately go to rules and axioms. Yes, can these be listed, as a start? What other types might we consider?
---
Another theme will be the system person, on the one hand, and the autodidact on the other. Now, there may be other ways to characterize this, as one person may have many different roles in this regard.
Remarks:
05/09/2011 -- We need a constructive re-look.
03/21/2011 -- On Blaise. Will we not see his wager shown to have strong applicability?
Modified: 05/09/2011
Monday, March 7, 2011
Enlightenment, again
Month, Day: 167, Loftiness, Mercy (Perfection)
This year, there was an Enlightenment theme (which will continue).
One topic? The Cave (Sufficiency, by necessity)
Remarks:
01/25/2012 -- Yes, still at it. Ready to be more audacious. What we're looking for has to do with mind; at some point, it will be allowed by science that we can observe effects (actually, predict, to boot - one step forward will be a more insightful mathematics).
03/10/2011 -- Names are to be understood.
Modified: 01/25/2012
This year, there was an Enlightenment theme (which will continue).
One topic? The Cave (Sufficiency, by necessity)
Remarks:
01/25/2012 -- Yes, still at it. Ready to be more audacious. What we're looking for has to do with mind; at some point, it will be allowed by science that we can observe effects (actually, predict, to boot - one step forward will be a more insightful mathematics).
03/10/2011 -- Names are to be understood.
Modified: 01/25/2012
Thursday, January 6, 2011
All of the king's men (er, Drs)
Month, Day: 167, Honour, Words (Majesty)
Continuing with the theme of enlightenment, one focus has been on the Manifestation, what the realization of this might bring to an operational stance (read, science), and how much we can attempt to know of the Living Book (see Aqdas Notes #155).
In this regard, the Faith & Science page seems a little hesitant. But, audacity worries not about appearing stupid. Remember, the role of the autodidact does not require recognition of the elite minds (naturally, there will be some of the brights who might have some resonance with the message) in order to be truthful and useful (not arguing a strictly utilitarian stance, either).
As in this, the whole collection of Drs (who approximate the state (SAQ #45, pg 174: Therefore, the skilled doctor does what he wishes, and the patients have no share in this right.) from an acquisition, not gift, framework) across all time and space (Hidden Words #40, Arabic)) do not (cannot) equal Revelation. However, how are we to know given our limits?
Well, one might consider that a good quasi-empirical stance would allow that conjectures, currently labeled as quack, may have some basis. Methinks that the growing prowess of whatever is behind the web will support many types of experiments that were hitherto without any hope of attention.
Now, it was mentioned, in one paper, that the Guardian said that he was not infallible in regard to science. One way to look at that is this: science is not ever to be infallible, even if the viewer/observer may think themselves so. Science may try to know and understand being, and the scientist is a being; BUT, science is not 'being' except as it may reflect on some state of knowing of a sentient being.
Of course, there are, too, the issues dealt with by information theory.
So, yes, too much emphasis on the inerrant nature of the Writings is not correct. Too, any limits on the writing and the reading reflects naught on the Living Book's message, but does say something about the media and ourselves.
We know that we have had the Book (several, in fact), always. For many reasons, the Living Book's influence has not been allowed into the discussions dealing with philosophy of science.
There are many unsupported claims held by scientists, though they will not admit this. That is, any intelligent human has metaphysical rumblings. It is human nature to be thusly opinion'd, despite that underdetermination lurks. Are these, by necessity, of no use to the practice?
That our whole worldview is so computationally framed ought to make this obvious. Yet, we see grand pronouncements about what is and about the various schemes involved that it is no wonder that the general public might be confused.
So, as said before, the UHJ has a role in this. We'll conjecture on that, in the near future.
Remarks:
05/17/2011 -- Stephen gets press.
05/09/2011 -- We need a constructive re-look.
Modified: 05/17/2011
Continuing with the theme of enlightenment, one focus has been on the Manifestation, what the realization of this might bring to an operational stance (read, science), and how much we can attempt to know of the Living Book (see Aqdas Notes #155).
In this regard, the Faith & Science page seems a little hesitant. But, audacity worries not about appearing stupid. Remember, the role of the autodidact does not require recognition of the elite minds (naturally, there will be some of the brights who might have some resonance with the message) in order to be truthful and useful (not arguing a strictly utilitarian stance, either).
As in this, the whole collection of Drs (who approximate the state (SAQ #45, pg 174: Therefore, the skilled doctor does what he wishes, and the patients have no share in this right.) from an acquisition, not gift, framework) across all time and space (Hidden Words #40, Arabic)) do not (cannot) equal Revelation. However, how are we to know given our limits?
Well, one might consider that a good quasi-empirical stance would allow that conjectures, currently labeled as quack, may have some basis. Methinks that the growing prowess of whatever is behind the web will support many types of experiments that were hitherto without any hope of attention.
Now, it was mentioned, in one paper, that the Guardian said that he was not infallible in regard to science. One way to look at that is this: science is not ever to be infallible, even if the viewer/observer may think themselves so. Science may try to know and understand being, and the scientist is a being; BUT, science is not 'being' except as it may reflect on some state of knowing of a sentient being.
Of course, there are, too, the issues dealt with by information theory.
So, yes, too much emphasis on the inerrant nature of the Writings is not correct. Too, any limits on the writing and the reading reflects naught on the Living Book's message, but does say something about the media and ourselves.
We know that we have had the Book (several, in fact), always. For many reasons, the Living Book's influence has not been allowed into the discussions dealing with philosophy of science.
There are many unsupported claims held by scientists, though they will not admit this. That is, any intelligent human has metaphysical rumblings. It is human nature to be thusly opinion'd, despite that underdetermination lurks. Are these, by necessity, of no use to the practice?
That our whole worldview is so computationally framed ought to make this obvious. Yet, we see grand pronouncements about what is and about the various schemes involved that it is no wonder that the general public might be confused.
So, as said before, the UHJ has a role in this. We'll conjecture on that, in the near future.
Remarks:
05/17/2011 -- Stephen gets press.
05/09/2011 -- We need a constructive re-look.
Modified: 05/17/2011
Saturday, December 11, 2010
True wealth
Month, Day: 167, Speech, Loftiness (Glory)
Month, Day: 167, Questions, Splendour (Beauty)
As we run through the middle of the Motivational group, it might be nice to consider the following (formatting is mine), within the context of the economic games that stress maximization of one's own wealth by efforts aimed toward the minimization of the wealth of all others.
SAQ #15: Then it is clear that the honor and exaltation of man must be something more than material riches. Material comforts are only a branch, but the root of the exaltation of man is the good attributes and virtues which are the adornments of his reality. These are the
Remarks:
03/17/2011 -- Just as St. Patrick carried the message, so too ought we act to bring forth a proper viewpoint.
Modified: 03/17/2011
Month, Day: 167, Questions, Splendour (Beauty)
As we run through the middle of the Motivational group, it might be nice to consider the following (formatting is mine), within the context of the economic games that stress maximization of one's own wealth by efforts aimed toward the minimization of the wealth of all others.
SAQ #15: Then it is clear that the honor and exaltation of man must be something more than material riches. Material comforts are only a branch, but the root of the exaltation of man is the good attributes and virtues which are the adornments of his reality. These are the
- divine appearances,
- the heavenly bounties,
- the sublime emotions,
- the love and knowledge of God;
- universal wisdom,
- intellectual perception,
- scientific discoveries,
- justice,
- equity,
- truthfulness,
- benevolence,
- natural courage and innate fortitude;
- the respect for rights and the keeping of agreements and covenants;
- rectitude in all circumstances;
- serving the truth under all conditions;
- the sacrifice of one’s life for the good of all people;
- kindness and esteem for all nations;
- obedience to the teachings of God;
- service in the Divine Kingdom;
- the guidance of the people, and
- the education of the nations and races.
Remarks:
03/17/2011 -- Just as St. Patrick carried the message, so too ought we act to bring forth a proper viewpoint.
Modified: 03/17/2011
Sunday, December 5, 2010
Maitreya, et al
Month, Day: 167, Speech, Power (Beauty)
Month, Day: 167, Speech, Speech (Beauty)
Many continue to anticipate the Maitreya. A New Yorker article describes how one soul has been offered this burden, without looking for it. According to the list in the NYer article, many have claimed this role or that of the Messiah.
Though some question the role and its existence, there have been many. This time of the year celebrates the birth of an earlier Messiah. We have similar occurrences throughout the year.
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So, what is the theme (motivation) here? There must be some understanding of the Prophet's Role that is within our grasp and that is inherently human (return?). This trait may very well relate to one's ability for acceptance of the Message.
Coming up next in the Motivational group will be Questions (12/12). One goal may be to ask such as to divert away from the delusional tag so that the importance of this notion to science can be discussed in a more sane fashion than we have seen to date. Would not such be the expected result if the message were true?
Remarks:
04/04/2011 -- We'll be looking at things like foreknowledge.
12/05/2010 -- Need to add that, for some views, the cycles ended. This site will be used for the main Islamic information source, for awhile.
Modified: 04/04/2011
Month, Day: 167, Speech, Speech (Beauty)
Many continue to anticipate the Maitreya. A New Yorker article describes how one soul has been offered this burden, without looking for it. According to the list in the NYer article, many have claimed this role or that of the Messiah.
Though some question the role and its existence, there have been many. This time of the year celebrates the birth of an earlier Messiah. We have similar occurrences throughout the year.
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So, what is the theme (motivation) here? There must be some understanding of the Prophet's Role that is within our grasp and that is inherently human (return?). This trait may very well relate to one's ability for acceptance of the Message.
Coming up next in the Motivational group will be Questions (12/12). One goal may be to ask such as to divert away from the delusional tag so that the importance of this notion to science can be discussed in a more sane fashion than we have seen to date. Would not such be the expected result if the message were true?
Remarks:
04/04/2011 -- We'll be looking at things like foreknowledge.
12/05/2010 -- Need to add that, for some views, the cycles ended. This site will be used for the main Islamic information source, for awhile.
Modified: 04/04/2011
Thursday, August 19, 2010
Finale
Month, Day: 167, Perfection, Loftiness (Majesty)
We're at the end of the Teleological so that means that Operational concerns can be once more on the table. And, what is Science if not operational?
That is, we have operational definitions as the basis for what is, essentially, underdetermined. Yet, we were counseled that Certitude is of essence.
A question always on the table deals with the Manifestation and science, not to ignore those related to explaining things like life, consciousness, and more from an axiomatic basis using reason and data.
SAQ #22: The meaning is not that the Manifestations are unable to perform miracles, for They have all power. But for Them inner sight, spiritual healing and eternal life are the valuable and important things.
Has not that 'inner sight' been castigated and thrown out by science? 'How to recover' is one thing to ponder and discuss as we expend the yearly measure.
We're at the end of the Teleological so that means that Operational concerns can be once more on the table. And, what is Science if not operational?
That is, we have operational definitions as the basis for what is, essentially, underdetermined. Yet, we were counseled that Certitude is of essence.
A question always on the table deals with the Manifestation and science, not to ignore those related to explaining things like life, consciousness, and more from an axiomatic basis using reason and data.
SAQ #22: The meaning is not that the Manifestations are unable to perform miracles, for They have all power. But for Them inner sight, spiritual healing and eternal life are the valuable and important things.
Has not that 'inner sight' been castigated and thrown out by science? 'How to recover' is one thing to ponder and discuss as we expend the yearly measure.
Wednesday, July 28, 2010
Words
Month, Day: 167, Words, Questions (Justice)
Several metaphors have been used for the immensity of Words, and is there any better than ocean?
We know that 'words' can be as waves, suggesting the transient. Though, there are dangers that can result from the effect of words, they are necessary in a constructive sense.
So, how do we get structure? Well, this month is on the other side of Perfection from Names which time is the transition from the Teleological to the Operational.
Names bring structure to the fore for us and our uses.
...
With Perfection, and August, we have a congruence of the eighth months. Actually, this start of the month agreement is the only one in the year. What is the significance of 8/1?
Remarks:
07/31/2010 -- All types of meaning of Words come into play. From the Transcendent onward (or outward). Then, those involved in human interplay, on the psychether onward (and outward) to that related to the otogenic apparati, need attention. Patterns? The Key, and more.
07/30/2010 -- Patterns, as examples of types of structure, are apropos.
Modified: 07/31/2010
Several metaphors have been used for the immensity of Words, and is there any better than ocean?
We know that 'words' can be as waves, suggesting the transient. Though, there are dangers that can result from the effect of words, they are necessary in a constructive sense.
So, how do we get structure? Well, this month is on the other side of Perfection from Names which time is the transition from the Teleological to the Operational.
Names bring structure to the fore for us and our uses.
...
With Perfection, and August, we have a congruence of the eighth months. Actually, this start of the month agreement is the only one in the year. What is the significance of 8/1?
Remarks:
07/31/2010 -- All types of meaning of Words come into play. From the Transcendent onward (or outward). Then, those involved in human interplay, on the psychether onward (and outward) to that related to the otogenic apparati, need attention. Patterns? The Key, and more.
07/30/2010 -- Patterns, as examples of types of structure, are apropos.
Modified: 07/31/2010
Saturday, May 22, 2010
Enlightenment
Month, Day: 167, Grandeur, Mercy (Glory)
We'll have a theme this year, for several reasons.
For one, last year's was looking at the Groups. Then, we ought to ponder this: prior to the events of the Manifestations, the western world underwent a transformation, of several sorts.
Since there are Teleological implications to consider, we'll let that Group (we're now in the Transcendent) be the focus. As we know, the Group starts with Light which has so many aspects. Actually, just as electromagnetic theory likes its Hilbert notions, so too do the spiritual characteristics exist unbounded.
And, we'll use the American side for focus for this analysis (which age followed en-light-en-ment). Consider, universal education was a tenant (and ideal) of the en-light-en'd Puritanical view.
Also, the whole issue of Audacity (major theme here), and its non-mentor'd parallel (except, the only ones of this state truly are the Manifestations), will be re-framed using metaphorically motivated (another Group) notions from the Enlightenment's contributions as the core.
Note that the temporal flavor is an artifact (which are allowed for illustration, see SAQ and Valley Four) that will be superimposed upon the Writings. Or, is it that the Writings are the superposed? There is more to consider than 'propositional' concerns.
You see, the arguments concerning use of the Writings for foundational purposes remain open to demonstration. How? And, to what extent? And, at what point does there need to be overview through the workings of the Administrative order? Plus, 'light' and its basis, for computation and imagination and more, are on the table.
To what depth can all this be penetrated this year?
Modified: 05/23/2010
We'll have a theme this year, for several reasons.
For one, last year's was looking at the Groups. Then, we ought to ponder this: prior to the events of the Manifestations, the western world underwent a transformation, of several sorts.
Since there are Teleological implications to consider, we'll let that Group (we're now in the Transcendent) be the focus. As we know, the Group starts with Light which has so many aspects. Actually, just as electromagnetic theory likes its Hilbert notions, so too do the spiritual characteristics exist unbounded.
And, we'll use the American side for focus for this analysis (which age followed en-light-en-ment). Consider, universal education was a tenant (and ideal) of the en-light-en'd Puritanical view.
Also, the whole issue of Audacity (major theme here), and its non-mentor'd parallel (except, the only ones of this state truly are the Manifestations), will be re-framed using metaphorically motivated (another Group) notions from the Enlightenment's contributions as the core.
Note that the temporal flavor is an artifact (which are allowed for illustration, see SAQ and Valley Four) that will be superimposed upon the Writings. Or, is it that the Writings are the superposed? There is more to consider than 'propositional' concerns.
You see, the arguments concerning use of the Writings for foundational purposes remain open to demonstration. How? And, to what extent? And, at what point does there need to be overview through the workings of the Administrative order? Plus, 'light' and its basis, for computation and imagination and more, are on the table.
To what depth can all this be penetrated this year?
Modified: 05/23/2010
Monday, February 1, 2010
Eons and eons
Month, Day: 166, Sovereignty, Speech (Perfection)
Month, Day: 166, Sovereignty, Sovereignty (Majesty)
One thing that audacity will bring is that teleology has a firm BASIS.
Now, when we consider the modern views of science, with its mathematical framework, time is a major factor with huge dimensional impacts, even with the 'tricks' such as invoking Hilbert's notions. Yet, that hugeness does not stop speculation about interpretations even though such activities are, in a very strong sense, antithetical to what how 'science' defines itself.
Call the propensity fill in just part of human nature, if you will. Underdetermination remains a key issue, though.
Now, the thing that we need to show is that the Writings can provide needed insight. It's not clear how this will work since arguments descend to issues like whether propositional issues are handled and similar.
But, think of the continuing, and recurrent, influence, somehow, of the Manifestation over time on Creation, that is, the super-positioned. All sorts of things come to the imagination (which Albert extolled over knowledge).
Given that art can use modern techniques, brought to us by science and engineering, we see the emergence of better and better presentation, via movies and such (3D, animation, ...). After catching a glimpse of one dealing with dinosaurs, one can easily ponder an experiment gone wild. Hence, some type of 'tweak' was necessary to reduce size and attitude.
Of course, there is always the chance that the portrayal of a mean and aggressive attitude is founded in some part of the human psyche, that is, entirely laced with sentiments of social dwarinism (apologies to Charles).
Yet, the fact remains that the largest land animals, now, are not carnivores. And, the largest on the planet are water creatures.
Of course, this could be better described, however how the 'tweak' may occur is of interest and ought to be to science (that type of science which could allow such -- yes, there may very well be an operationally useful aspect to this).
Remarks:
08/01/2012 --Ether, in a manner that is unavoidably true. Our task? Show how to handle the matter from a scientific (the wise interpretation, okay?) framework. And, audacity is not necessary.
03/10/2010 -- A duty, know the Transcendent.
Modified: 08/01/2012
Month, Day: 166, Sovereignty, Sovereignty (Majesty)
One thing that audacity will bring is that teleology has a firm BASIS.
Now, when we consider the modern views of science, with its mathematical framework, time is a major factor with huge dimensional impacts, even with the 'tricks' such as invoking Hilbert's notions. Yet, that hugeness does not stop speculation about interpretations even though such activities are, in a very strong sense, antithetical to what how 'science' defines itself.
Call the propensity fill in just part of human nature, if you will. Underdetermination remains a key issue, though.
Now, the thing that we need to show is that the Writings can provide needed insight. It's not clear how this will work since arguments descend to issues like whether propositional issues are handled and similar.
But, think of the continuing, and recurrent, influence, somehow, of the Manifestation over time on Creation, that is, the super-positioned. All sorts of things come to the imagination (which Albert extolled over knowledge).
Given that art can use modern techniques, brought to us by science and engineering, we see the emergence of better and better presentation, via movies and such (3D, animation, ...). After catching a glimpse of one dealing with dinosaurs, one can easily ponder an experiment gone wild. Hence, some type of 'tweak' was necessary to reduce size and attitude.
Of course, there is always the chance that the portrayal of a mean and aggressive attitude is founded in some part of the human psyche, that is, entirely laced with sentiments of social dwarinism (apologies to Charles).
Yet, the fact remains that the largest land animals, now, are not carnivores. And, the largest on the planet are water creatures.
Of course, this could be better described, however how the 'tweak' may occur is of interest and ought to be to science (that type of science which could allow such -- yes, there may very well be an operationally useful aspect to this).
Remarks:
08/01/2012 --Ether, in a manner that is unavoidably true. Our task? Show how to handle the matter from a scientific (the wise interpretation, okay?) framework. And, audacity is not necessary.
03/10/2010 -- A duty, know the Transcendent.
Modified: 08/01/2012
Wednesday, January 27, 2010
Meaning of life
Month, Day: 166, Sovereignty, Names (Justice)
Month, Day: 166, Sovereignty, Will (Independence)
The Ascendant group corresponds to the time of looking forward to thaws and longer days.
The change in the Mystical teachings subsection is interesting, for several reasons, including Audacity.
So, notions about Return are really about recurrence which we see everywhere. Notions of 'reincarnation' may relate to lessons taught by thermodynamics.
In essence, science is how we learn what God wants us to know.
Remarks:
02/24/2010 -- Ascendant to Transcendent.
Modified: 02/24/2010
Month, Day: 166, Sovereignty, Will (Independence)
The Ascendant group corresponds to the time of looking forward to thaws and longer days.
The change in the Mystical teachings subsection is interesting, for several reasons, including Audacity.
So, notions about Return are really about recurrence which we see everywhere. Notions of 'reincarnation' may relate to lessons taught by thermodynamics.
In essence, science is how we learn what God wants us to know.
Remarks:
02/24/2010 -- Ascendant to Transcendent.
Modified: 02/24/2010
Monday, January 11, 2010
Free will
Month, Day: 166, Honour, Knowledge (Perfection)
Since we're in the last of the Motivational group and considering the phenomenon of the Manifestation, free will needs to come up, albeit briefly.
SAQ #70: Some things are subject to the free will of man, such as justice, equity, tyranny and injustice, in other words, good and evil actions; it is evident and clear that these actions are, for the most part, left to the will of man. ... though the choice of good and evil belongs to man, under all circumstances he is dependent upon the sustaining help of life, which comes from the Omnipotent.
Last time, we looked at how things are, by design, underdetermined. Pascal's argument was brought up which implies some type of choice is possible. Of course, we need to use our will to make a choice.
It's funny how patterns seem to recur within human affairs that may indicate some type of non-choice. Habitual actions, for example. Yet, not necessarily of habit, as a pattern might just exemplify some best choice. There is a lot to consider.
For example, given all the troubles of human affairs, can we expect that we could handle things on our own? Or just let the elapse of long time frames and random workings attempt some rectification?
No, we get direct involvement in ways that are not understood. Perhaps, if we tried - and this is audacity, we could grasp some things, such as Knowledge of God.
Remarks:
05/17/2011 -- Stephen gets press.
05/09/2011 -- We need a constructive re-look.
02/24/2010 -- Ascendant to Transcendent.
Modified: 05/17/2011
Since we're in the last of the Motivational group and considering the phenomenon of the Manifestation, free will needs to come up, albeit briefly.
SAQ #70: Some things are subject to the free will of man, such as justice, equity, tyranny and injustice, in other words, good and evil actions; it is evident and clear that these actions are, for the most part, left to the will of man. ... though the choice of good and evil belongs to man, under all circumstances he is dependent upon the sustaining help of life, which comes from the Omnipotent.
Last time, we looked at how things are, by design, underdetermined. Pascal's argument was brought up which implies some type of choice is possible. Of course, we need to use our will to make a choice.
It's funny how patterns seem to recur within human affairs that may indicate some type of non-choice. Habitual actions, for example. Yet, not necessarily of habit, as a pattern might just exemplify some best choice. There is a lot to consider.
For example, given all the troubles of human affairs, can we expect that we could handle things on our own? Or just let the elapse of long time frames and random workings attempt some rectification?
No, we get direct involvement in ways that are not understood. Perhaps, if we tried - and this is audacity, we could grasp some things, such as Knowledge of God.
Remarks:
05/17/2011 -- Stephen gets press.
05/09/2011 -- We need a constructive re-look.
02/24/2010 -- Ascendant to Transcendent.
Modified: 05/17/2011
Friday, January 8, 2010
Underdetermination
Month, Day: 166, Honour, Names (Independence)
Of course, the question here is: can we move away from having the underdetermined abound around us?
SAQ #83: Therefore, there is no standard in the hands of people upon which we can rely.
Hubris is one reason for not accepting an extension of the Incompleteness Theorem. Pure operational confidence is another. Yet, many flounder. That is, even of the brights, we would probably find a substantial number who would accept that the best stance is what Pascal described so aptly, not the more in-your-face stance that has been so vehemently offered, of late.
The Key will continued to be explored both in attribute and utility.
Aside: Of late, there has been interest in planets nearly like the earth. There was a point in time when such comments would have been verboten. But, science and the related views do change as facts firm up.
Remarks:
01/25/2012 -- Yes, still at it. Ready to be more audacious. What we're looking for has to do with mind; at some point, it will be allowed by science that we can observe effects (actually, predict, to boot - one step forward will be a more insightful mathematics).
05/17/2011 -- Stephen gets press.
05/09/2011 -- We need a constructive re-look.
04/21/2010 -- We need to upgrade to a Transcendent Topology.
03/10/2010 -- A duty, know the Transcendent.
Modified: 01/25/2012
Of course, the question here is: can we move away from having the underdetermined abound around us?
SAQ #83: Therefore, there is no standard in the hands of people upon which we can rely.
Hubris is one reason for not accepting an extension of the Incompleteness Theorem. Pure operational confidence is another. Yet, many flounder. That is, even of the brights, we would probably find a substantial number who would accept that the best stance is what Pascal described so aptly, not the more in-your-face stance that has been so vehemently offered, of late.
The Key will continued to be explored both in attribute and utility.
Aside: Of late, there has been interest in planets nearly like the earth. There was a point in time when such comments would have been verboten. But, science and the related views do change as facts firm up.
Remarks:
01/25/2012 -- Yes, still at it. Ready to be more audacious. What we're looking for has to do with mind; at some point, it will be allowed by science that we can observe effects (actually, predict, to boot - one step forward will be a more insightful mathematics).
05/17/2011 -- Stephen gets press.
05/09/2011 -- We need a constructive re-look.
04/21/2010 -- We need to upgrade to a Transcendent Topology.
03/10/2010 -- A duty, know the Transcendent.
Modified: 01/25/2012
Thursday, December 31, 2009
Motivational III
Month, Day: 166, Honour, Splendour (Majesty)
We're now to the last of the Motivationals. As we head to the Ascendants, with the New Year looming (167), we will use the reality of the Manifestation as a major theme for discussion. This has to do with more than audacity. It's core.
Lets start with a couple of quotes from the SAQ, mainly to carry on Questions.
As mentioned before, the first part covers the influence of the Prophets in the evolution of humanity. Allowing this notion is a big step. The third part considers attributes of the Manifestations of God. The fourth part looks at man's details.
Now, given an acceptance of the first part as a basis, then the details, as they are covered in the subsequent parts, follow and ought to have relevance to true science.
SAQ #37: But for this Essence of the essences, this Truth of truths, this Mystery of mysteries, there are reflections, auroras, appearances and resplendencies in the world of existence. The dawning-place of these splendors, the place of these reflections, and the appearance of these manifestations are the Holy Dawning-places, the Universal Realities and the Divine Beings, Who are the true mirrors of the sanctified Essence of God. All the perfections, the bounties, the splendors which come from God are visible and evident in the Reality of the Holy Manifestations, like the sun which is resplendent in a clear polished mirror with all its perfections and bounties.
SAQ #51: All beings, whether large or small, were created perfect and complete from the first, but their perfections appear in them by degrees. The organization of God is one; the evolution of existence is one; the divine system is one.
It is obvious that some type of 'supernatural' appendage (it can be minimal - our task, to determine this) is required for science to take the next step. Otherwise, it mainly revolves around the pit of materialism and hollows our the human core. The manner in which this will play out is unknown, is feared, but is necessary. Let's take some time to develop the proper view, or at least define what is needed, from First Principles.
One of those is this.
SAQ #78: The tent of existence is upheld upon the pillar of justice and not upon forgiveness. The continuance of mankind depends upon justice and not upon forgiveness.
So, work is a key issue, with all sorts of implications.
Modified: 12/31/2009
We're now to the last of the Motivationals. As we head to the Ascendants, with the New Year looming (167), we will use the reality of the Manifestation as a major theme for discussion. This has to do with more than audacity. It's core.
Lets start with a couple of quotes from the SAQ, mainly to carry on Questions.
As mentioned before, the first part covers the influence of the Prophets in the evolution of humanity. Allowing this notion is a big step. The third part considers attributes of the Manifestations of God. The fourth part looks at man's details.
Now, given an acceptance of the first part as a basis, then the details, as they are covered in the subsequent parts, follow and ought to have relevance to true science.
SAQ #37: But for this Essence of the essences, this Truth of truths, this Mystery of mysteries, there are reflections, auroras, appearances and resplendencies in the world of existence. The dawning-place of these splendors, the place of these reflections, and the appearance of these manifestations are the Holy Dawning-places, the Universal Realities and the Divine Beings, Who are the true mirrors of the sanctified Essence of God. All the perfections, the bounties, the splendors which come from God are visible and evident in the Reality of the Holy Manifestations, like the sun which is resplendent in a clear polished mirror with all its perfections and bounties.
SAQ #51: All beings, whether large or small, were created perfect and complete from the first, but their perfections appear in them by degrees. The organization of God is one; the evolution of existence is one; the divine system is one.
It is obvious that some type of 'supernatural' appendage (it can be minimal - our task, to determine this) is required for science to take the next step. Otherwise, it mainly revolves around the pit of materialism and hollows our the human core. The manner in which this will play out is unknown, is feared, but is necessary. Let's take some time to develop the proper view, or at least define what is needed, from First Principles.
One of those is this.
SAQ #78: The tent of existence is upheld upon the pillar of justice and not upon forgiveness. The continuance of mankind depends upon justice and not upon forgiveness.
So, work is a key issue, with all sorts of implications.
Modified: 12/31/2009
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