J. P. Morgan

Month, Day: 169, Power, Perfection (Beauty)

I noticed this earlier, before following the trip west. But, the Master praised J.P. Morgan for his philanthropy. The Master did several indirect nods in mentioning that rank is part of the plan.

We'll have to look further at the matter, but it's like this (forgive the paraphrasing):

• All are to provide service to the Lord, in whatever way in which they have capacity. But, those of the higher gifts have no more grace than do the lowers. In fact, everyone ought to be happy with the Lord's gifts that they receive. And, the greed will be kept in control. That is, not screwing of the lowers by the highers.

Evidently, J.P.'s mis-dealings were minor compared to his later generosity. So, there is hope for the sinner (always)?

Again, J.P. was from an old American family, like his [father's] partner who was more beloved, Peabody.

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About the 11th day of the 11th month. The Master visited Arlington Cemetery and the grave of the father of his guest, Mrs. Parsons. In NYC, the Master, this time after the trip west, said that He preferred the poor to the rich. However, in New England, the Master very much visited with those who were affluent, albeit many of these were old American families. So, this day, we need to also remember those who helped the young civilization through conflicts from the beginning. We'll go more into that, in a sense of symmetry. 

Remarks:

05/25/2013 -- Reading of the Master's comment gave me pause. Not that I have a knee-jerk reaction to "fat cat-ism" as a fault (? -- we know that any excess comes about from collective detriments, elsewhere, do we not?), but the whole notion of the eye of the camel was strongly embedded in my brain during the early years (say, daily religion lesson, plus serving at Mass multiple times sometimes, ringing the church bell, ... -- hence, apple of the Bab's eye). Or, the counsel that gaining the whole world, while losing one's soul, does not a good career make (modern focus). So, financial gain seeking seemed other than spiritually fit. Besides, J.P.'s partner, Peabody, looked to be a better guy. Now, we have to consider how those with huge pockets may be analogs of kings.

11/19/2012 -- George Peabody's and J.P.'s time didn't really mesh. George retired by 1864. The 'kingly' set is considered, by some, to be related to wealth in the material sense. Or, it's a function of power. Character? In a sense, the Master was the kingly presence of his time.

Modified: 05/25/2013

Memes, as allegory

Month, Day: 169, Speech, Questions (Independence)

Our favorite day of every month. The next month is so, too. What? Questions! The real basis of the gift of science.

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In the 100-year look back, the Master's trip to the US is now over. He's in England.

That departure could motivate consideration of several things, such as the cognitive issues related to seeing the truth in people and the truth as it's differentiated by locale. The Master spent a lot of time in New England, and more in New York, in particular. He met many people, of all types. He saw plenty of the geographic realities of the northern part of the continent.

But, the Master liked Americans, their spirit, and more. One has to think about His analysis of them after observing, for the first time, what might be considered a new breed (not, in any way, meant to connote race) of person (that multitude behind the dream of America).

Consider the mixture of people here. His visit was about the time of 300th anniversary of the early comings from Europe. In New England, there were many from the northern European heritage. The difference between those who were here and those still there might have been obvious (somewhat). We would have loved to ask (remember, Questions). Yet, there was a lot of commonality, as we know (so, too, God's Creation is everywhere dense, not specifically blessed in any part, except, perhaps, pieces of Israel).

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There can be much more to say, in this regard. But, audacity says to take this approach: just as DNA analysis looks at the physical heritage of one's past, there is another type of analysis that will measure something that depicts the accumulation from the spirits of your ancestors (perhaps, psychether might be conceptually related).

Say what?

Yes, the healthy mind cannot ignore the Holy Spirit for all time. As well, it cannot but see God's Hand everywhere. But, what is healthy, in this regard? We'll get there.

In any case, no amount of denial makes the Reality go away. Brights can claim to disprove God till they're blue in the face, but that effort, no matter how long and hard, does not effect the Reality. It does not need our attention.

Basically, we're talking an either/or choice. If one denies, fine. It's a person's choice. What ramifications might there be to this choice? We may or may not see, in this lifetime.

If one does not deny, one would hope that there is a benefit from such. The huge problem is that there is a big gap between the realization and operational effectiveness. Tons can be discussed about this, and, probably, will be, in time. For the individual now, we just have to learn to balance Independence and strict obedience.

Why Independence? How else science? Too, who can take control of some else's life and tell them how to live? Oh, I know, plenty try this; it's the cause of a whole lot of problems; yes, even to those who advance in various roles related to their belief (stated generally, purposefully).

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Now, our problem is that the way of science has been subsumed under severe materialism, as if by necessity. That is, those making the deny choice, see above, are in charge. Yet, as we heard from the Master, science is much more than that. It's how we know God and His Creation. The principle says harmony of science and religion (two wings, of equal power).

So, there are many issues here to resolve. 

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The problem, with dealing with psychether, is that science is public, meaning that reproducibility, and more, is the watchword for evaluations. And, guess what? The psychetheral thing is shared by all humans; actually, it is directly addressable by (accessible to) one's consciousness with effort. We're talking part of Creation.

One might say that altered states are sought, in part, in regard to wanting to know this thing better. But, artificial means are not necessary.

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As an aside, we'll have to look at certain types of characteristics a little differently. You want me to tell you how? As I said, this is just a glimmer, about which I'll be jawboning. For instance, for the smarties, we'll look at kings and others who wielded power. That is, the Master, on several occasions while here in this newest of situations, said that levels (as in stations) are a necessary item to having any kind of order. That is, we cannot all be chiefs. In one instance when this topic was mentioned, He was with an offspring of a military officer; that is the obvious example to think about.

Aside: this is a system's concept, folks. At the same time, within the system, the Master said that all ought to be fully utilized and happy. Hence, we're not talking the age-old, top-down crap that the underlings have endured for God-only-knows how long.

Aside: We know that no one, with wisdom (see Aqdas) would want to be king - or President, for that matter - even if the crown were thrown in the ring. Too, kings have a role that makes them exemplars of God's good Graces (if only they would wake up to this -- anyone beside St. Margaret of Scotland on the list of good people?) to the folks in their domain, and, perhaps, to others. We really need to look up to them. However, given the character flaws of humans, no one of these types would be perfect, nor would they come to power except by gaming the system (yes, Pharaohs all). So, in the land of the democratic ideals, one might consider that the role is the important thing. George Washington is the perfect (yes, used advisedly) example: many (idiots all) wanted him to be crowned, but George (let's hear it for the Saint) said no and retired to Mount Vernon.

All sorts of musing will be coming forth about this subject.

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This post is only a cursory hint. Earlier, and for years, I've used psychether as a label for this mysterious thing without understanding what might be the reality of the thing to other than myself. It's not really mysterious, as, again, all conscious humans know about that in which this thing manifests itself.

In fact, psychether was used for the fact of 'ether' being misunderstood (look at the wiki page on Science and Religion related to the Faith -- all the dancing around so that the brights won't call one an idiot -- hah). Not only is psychether fairly complex, our friend Albert would find it fascinatingly familiar in properties to what he had conceived for his space-time model, except that it transcends such. That is, we're not talking spatial or temporal, and not transcendental. Rather, it's more core.

The brights, with their energetic denials of anything dealing with this truth, know the reality, too. Hence, their forcefulness in making denials. And, the use of Richard's concept in the title is intended to bring the 'meta' into memes. Richard's creativity, with regard to the term, is to be recognized, yet he opened a can of worms (which will be explained, in time).

Aside: this post is precipitated by the need to foster discussion. Too, I've been heavy into history and genealogy for about three years now. As I've swept across the expanses of western civilization's cradle, and over the long time frames and learned about those who had the talent (no monarch was without very dirty feet, and perhaps even worse), I've seen that we're playing the same old tunes, over and over (Return comes into play, here, in part). It's not a big leap to see that the energies behind all of the dynamics are the same (one task is to model how this might be); and, that families bridge the generational span, yet do not.

Aside: the Crusades are a focal, for good reason. But, that bickering goes further back. It is not necessary. Mind you, we ought not be patsies, either. The Master said that while here, to boot.

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Perhaps, we're in the day where no one religion will be above the rest. Get used to it. Perhaps, realizing this might be a key to having peace.

And, part of the psychether relates to the wars that come from the striving for dominance. It's more than just a replay of the Crusades every generation.What we have are little Lords, and all of those types, sparring about while the people suffer. Is that the way it ought to be? The problem is that the little guy's failing hurt only a small collection of people; these types' failures have wide ranging impact on many and many, and for a long time.

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As we've been told, succeeding generations will converge toward the proper views. Methinks that the lure of the e-world is indicative of the pull of the psychether. In fact, electro-magnetic phenomena (through the fact of the attribute of Light) are involved somehow. Many concepts out of in-the-small physics might have some analog. 

Pull? Yes, e-world may be an analog, but it pales in comparison to the real thing which is not to be mimicked by the virtual states (which are essentially empty). Yet, some type of augmentation, in a whole new sense, might come into play. That is, the emergence of the e-whatever is a gift in this regard. It'll help form the proper scientific framework in order to study psychether.

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As an aside, there is something related to psychether and matter which accounts for differences around the planet that are beyond our normal dealings. Nope, did not say paranormal. We'll, for now, just say that this part of Creation is one motivation behind the 1-hour trip counsel for the internment of bodies after death.

Remarks:

09/07/2015 - Bolded psychether as embolded by Multisense Realism work.

12/13/2015 -- This Atlantic article is fairly concise in its presentation of the issues. One example of those who experienced an NDE was a physician (Dr. Eben Alexander) who is accused by some of being anti-scientific. 

Modified: 09/07/2015

The Master

Month, Day: 167, Honour, Loftiness (Grace)
Month, Day: 167, Sovereignty, Splendour (Justice)

There has been some discussion about what the Writings might mean for science and whether science has shown anything in the writings to be false. To wit: evolution and ether.

The issue, as stated in a paper: The problem of disharmony between scripture and science is rooted in an unwarranted misattribution of scriptural inerrancy.

There is much to discuss here, but the Aqdas sequence from #174 (about Abdu'l-Bahá's role infallibility) through #188 are apropos. Take, for instance, #182: Immerse yourselves in the ocean of My words, that ye may unravel its secrets, and discover all the pearls of wisdom that lie hid in its depths.

Does it not make a suggestion to us? As said before, science is never about infallibility. Too, what bit of textual material, constructed by humans (oh yes, that includes mathematics), subsumes creation?

Granted, some worldviews seem to think that they are complete. That is, the manner of expression seems to convey authoritative (pontificate) assurance. Yet do we not know that we cannot have completeness and consistency concurrently? There are many ways to describe this.

So, for now, putting evolution aside, we saw this remark by the Master in the SAQ (#48): If we wish to deny everything that is not sensible, then we must deny the realities which unquestionably exist. For example, ethereal matter is not sensible, though it has an undoubted existence. The power of attraction is not sensible, though it certainly exists. From what do we affirm these existences? From their signs. Thus this light is the vibration of that ethereal matter, and from this vibration we infer the existence of ether.
As mentioned in an earlier post, the Master knew what he was talking about. Light is more than a physical phenomenon. It is one of the Attributes which are celebrated through the year.

The Master was the son of the Manifestation, thereby inheriting insights for which we have no understanding. Too, the Master knew that his audience was going to persist through time.

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Remarks:

08/01/2012 --Ether, in a manner that is unavoidably true. Our task? Show how to handle the matter from a scientific (the wise interpretation, okay?) framework. And, audacity is not necessary.

03/17/2011 -- Just as St. Patrick carried the message, so too ought we act to bring forth a proper viewpoint.

01/25/2011 -- Continued in the next post.

Modified: 08/01/2012

No diary?

Month, Day: 169, Might, Might (Perfection)

A double day.

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About the time of the Lincoln visit, the diary quit. It has been really interesting reading these personal notes from several parties. For one thing, they brought forth more interpretations of dreams (about dreams generally) that I have had of the Master. I'll go into these at some point.Too, they personalize the situation. It's one thing to see, hear, or read about something that is public. It's another to know the personal issues, as in the Person versus the Role.

What? Yes, you see, science is public which is its main point (despite protestations by the Brights).

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So, whilst the Master was on the East coast with the older aspects of our civilization in evidence, we had auxiliary information personal observations about the times and events (I liked the one where the Illuminati of Boston's locale all lined up to make their presence known -- same thing happened in D.C.). Too, we had the Master having little discussions captured by someone who was being succinct due to space, and perhaps time, constraints.

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At the same time, there were public speeches recorded. However, it was done by hand and brain, though some electronic (artificial) recordings are around. Mainly, we have things from people's efforts (to wit, SAQ). Today, we have capturing everywhere, unedited, unrehearsed, etc. Even from little portable devices, such as the phone (one of the dreams dealt with this, way back in the 60s).

After Nebraska, there aren't any diary entries, unless they'll show up later. It would be easy to find out. But, for now, let's assume that there won't be any. What would that mean?

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Yes, audacity pushes me on here. As the Master went west, it seemed to me that His talking about the Covenant, and lurking problems, strengthened. You see, look at our history. Too, look at the widening spaces as you go west.

Aside: remember, I've been on this side of the world for decades, mostly, by choice, in the west. Yet, Thornton roamed the same environs.

So, we will have the speeches to follow, daily, in the westward trek. Perhaps, there may be some way to get personal glimmers from what is at the site. We'll have to see. The visit was short, and sweet, comparatively. Oh well. New York was given the title of City of the Covenant.

Aside: hopefully, that will somehow straighten out, at some point, the financial messes that arise from that city which is not as illumined as it ought to be; rather, fairly stinky processes run daily there under the guise of the thoughts laid down by Adam Smith; but, all of that can be characterized in a manner that will describe the problems and hopefully allow creative solutions that are of value to more than the shifty-valued.

Remarks:

10/11/2012 --A visit to the grave site on October 19, 1912.

09/24/2012 -- The west, finally.

09/20/2012 -- Happy to note more content has appeared. The Rockies had to be mentioned.

09/18/2012 -- Sept 26 showed up today. So, I'll just wait and not look ahead too far. Looking forward to reading the CA pieces (and talks).

09/17/2012 -- Now, we have diary entries through Sept 25. Perhaps, they're appearing by some type of period. Throughout the summer, I could look weeks ahead. The Glenwood Springs entry seems like a diary entry. 

09/17/2012 --Was in the SFO area on 09/09/2012, when there was a celebration of the 100th anniversary of the visit by the Master. His visit came six years after the earthquake. So, SF was renewing itself, at the time.

Modified: 10/11/2012

Up and down

Month, Day: 176, Knowledge, Sovereignty  (Glory)

The recent global "72 hours of bicentenary coverage" is an example of the former. It's great to see the Twin Festivals brought together. In the old days, my birth day brought in the start (10/20). Then, we had 24 days until Oct. 12. Now, there are some years where the celebrations might be close to 10/20. But, Nov. 12 is out of range.

Bicentenary, 2019

 Celebrations can lift if done right.

But, work reigns, too. As service, we are told. For some, that is definitely a downer. As well, there is plenty about life that can pull one down. So, we are to cope with, handle, both sides of this. So much is involved that there is only a brief reference here in order to bring in the below.

The Master wrote a letter to Alfred Lunt that provides some counsel in this area. You all know, some modern employment is really a type of slavery. So, again, we're punting this discussion down the road.

The letter, or a portion, thereof.

I pulled this off of a FB page which had picked it up from the "Star of the West." Alfred (Bahaipedia) is #87 in this photo at Green Acre in the summer of 1912. That's 109 years ago. Several of his family members are there: his wife, child, in-laws, friend, and many cousins (as in, old New England families that started the whole thing of the American Dream - lots to look at there).

Read this: patience but not sitting idle; smile (as in grin and bear it); joy (in the face of huge odds); no fear, except of God; etc. I thought that it was interesting that the Master took this tact. Well, one grandson of Alfred spent his career organizing labor. One thinks of the current bifurcations that have resulted from several factors that we have to look at further.

In short, the lot of many is hard work. I would rather be there than resting in a chair, I always said.

Now, those whose hand have nary a callous to show have no say in how spirituality relates to those who labor. Think of that. One huge source of conflict (and the resulting bifurcations) is that those who labor are way more smart than they are given credit. Many who do not labor wish that they were 'it' and the epitome of something (not so). Intelligence does not imply that one will rise to being ineffective.

Actually, agriculture having such a high status implies work of the nature that can be quite healthy both physically and spiritually. We have not gotten this right.

Yes, so much to look at.

Remarks: 10/17/2020

11/02/2019 -- After the post, started to look at the post on the 1912 visit by the Master to Green Acres. Want to look at those there, as most of them are cousins, from early New England's start. Like Grace Robarts Ober: Welcome to the kingdom. Interesting blog.

06/10/2020 -- This letter had been sent to Alfred by Ahmad Sohrad quoting the Master. See Crush the mind for more details.

10/17/2020 -- This is a reflection on a prayer sent by the Master to AE Lunt: Crush the mind, Up and down. Example: Swami Agnivesh. 

Western loop

Month, Day: 169, Names, Speech (Beauty)

Earlier, while considering the long time spent in New England (and New York City), I mentioned that I've been in (or near to) all the cities that the Master had visited while in the U.S. and Canada. So, it's been interesting to see how far removed I was at each location. Too, there are many things that we can learn from that year, more than many might consider to be possible.

Of course, there were times of actual congruence, say, like the Temple in Wilmette. The others, I'll figure out as I review the itinerary in more detail. What we see is a location issue, dealing with differences in properties, whose study seems, as of this time, to be outside of the constrained view of science (hence, audacity). But, that's a topic of continuing interest.

For now, let's just look at the Western trip. Taking San Francisco, for example, it was forty-five years ago (1967), this month, while I was living within one mile of the principal residence for the Master in SF (1815 California) that I met someone who turned out to be my Baha'i teacher and declared. After that, I spent a couple of years within 3 miles of that SF location without knowing about it. I don't remember anyone mentioning the 1912 trip at that time (late 60s).

A bit earlier in my life, I had spent, I find out from looking at the map, three years within 10 miles, or so, of the Inglewood location where the Master visited Thornton Chase's grave. Thornton is old-time American which is one thing of interest to me personally, since my work on defining meme/gene (perhaps, there is another descriptive method for this) relationships is based upon the migration that started in the 17th century.

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The western trip covered cities in between that were residences (or work sites) in several states: Colorado, Illinois, Minnesota, Nebraska, Utah. And, Western New York. Ohio, Pennsylvania, etc. were on earlier jaunts.  

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The Twin Days (of course, we're talking about an actual point that is a few years later) were 19th century going into the 20th century visit. We're now 21st. So, in essence, the times of the Principals is about mid-way between the times of those early souls and ourselves (audacity says there is something to this).

Looking at some of those who were met the Master (a veritable Who's Who) in that northeastern realm, and in particular, some of the main folks in the stories, we see old-time families all around. Of course, a lot of the old-time implies those from that northern isle that ran the world for awhile.

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Of course, I've spent an abundance of time in the eastern regions, too, including a long stint in the Capitol city. It's nice to see that the Master got to tour the Library of Congress; after all, this Revelation has a major theme of systems (to be discussed). The explosion all around results partly from that. Again, visitors in D.C. were a Who's Who with long familial associations. I didn't see any reference relating to a White House or a Capitol building visit. D.A.R. and Arlington National Cemetery were on the list, though. 

Remarks:

10/17/2012 -- Apple of the Bab's eye. Also, only in California.

10/11/2012 --A visit to the grave site of Thornton Chase on October 19, 1912.

09/24/2012 -- The west, finally.

Modified: 10/17/2012

New England

Month, Day: 169, Perfection, Perfection (Justice)

A double day, in an important month.

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This is the 100th anniversary of an unprecedented event. The Master's visit to the U.S. came less than 150 years after its start. Too, given His roles, there are all types of significances. Looking for these can be interesting and instructive.

In terms of time, He spent much more in New York City and Washington DC than any other place. The month out in the west pales when compared with time spent on the east coast. But, the population density was much greater in those eastern realms. The massive buildup on the west coast came a little later. L.A. was still an almost sleepy town, in comparison.

His jaunt up to Montreal was brief, too. There were several visits to Chicago, but the days don't add up that much.

It's nice that the diaries and periodical articles have been organized. Too, we have photos from the time or taken later in an area where the Master visited. So, looking at this collection brings out a lot.

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Now, take New England and its importance. Well, it was the cradle, more than anywhere else in the U.S., of the new nation that was visited by God's representative a mere 100+ years after its inception. And, New England's history will be retold using insights from the Writings (as will a whole bunch of disciplines, once the framework for doing this has been worked out -- it's mathematical, at its basis -- mathematical from an universal sense).

Calling New England the cradle is not warranted? Well, Virginia did play a major role. As well, we have those intermediate states playing a part. Yet, the influx into New England (in other words, The Great Migration, as titled by the NEHGS), for a period of time and from Northern Europe, principally England, surpassed that of the other areas.

The result of this massive influx put into a place a type of social cauldron from which American characteristics were forged. Some of the current problems can be understood within this context. The proper analysis has not been done, as of yet. The blogger is too old to see fruits; just knowing that the studies have an onset would be sufficient.

The 'illustrious' ones of New England came to see the Master, especially the women. It's interesting that His 'hostess' in New England (Mrs. Agnes Parsons) is of an old American family (early entrants, Virginia, in particular). Looking at her diary reads like a social register, almost.

The beauty of the place was well appreciated. In more than one case, the Master mentioned that His Father's imprisonment kept Him from enjoying such wonderful examples of Creation's bounties. Too, there are little things that pop out. He noted (paraphrase) that certain types of social events can corrupt morals. Too, a visit to one of the early players in the military-industrial complex did not go over well. But, He did tell the Canadians that they needed to attend to their defense, that is, being prepared to defend themselves in the coming war (WWI). The story of allowing oneself to be slapped was used in one of the talks.

Of course, reading these things from a diary, by definition, means that one is getting a personal view (hopefully, truthfully written). So, any description found therein that talked about an observation or even a quote (assuming, heard correctly) would be an interpretation (which we know are private).

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Aside: Science is built upon mathematics which requires interpretive inputs at several points. That mathematics is a type of 'truth' that is expressively clear is an insidious overlay from 20th century thinking. In some cases, it's a carry over from the efforts at pushing spirit out of human matters (science is an human endeavor, remember?). Hence, science's basis has an interpretative element. We know that is true, in the small (see earlier post). It's true, too, in the grand, extrapolative scheme. Yet, these types of decisional things get covered up. That is, the mainstream takes it route; other possible avenues get reduced to potential cracker-ism if re-discovered. Now, the Writings may not be a 'propositional' source, yet the Writings do carry sufficient information to found a very sold worldview. How will the definition of this come about?

As said above, the blogger is past his prime. He did work this out 45 years ago. It's worth the effort to found the discussion, in spite of the cries of the conventional. Hence, the blog. Too, the cheeky use of audacity. 

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Aside: The blogger has been, during his times, in all of the cities visited by the Master in the U.S. though not always being aware that there had been the Presence. So, it's not like a pilgrimage, but there is a record of this in memory and on the ether. Serendipitous convergence, somewhat. 

Remarks:

10/12/2012 -- Mr. Alfred E. Lunt, mentioned in the travel notes, was an early supporter of the Faith.

09/02/2012 -- After the east, the north and west were visited.

08/27/2012 -- Today, we have another type of double day.

Modified: 10/12/2012

Pending departures

Month, Day: 169, Knowledge, Words (Perfection)

The Bab's day is Light of Knowledge, each year.

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The first departure was leaving LA. Ah, the City of the Angels. European involvement there from the early 1500s. Caused the Master to think of the Holy Land. 

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Then, there is the departure from CA. The Master spent less than a month in the Golden State. That, in itself, is significant. Lots of time spent back east. Then, a quick sortie to the frontier states. We'll have fun looking at all of these things in the next year, or so. Just as New England (and eastern colonies) represent the thrust of people across the water, the movement west portends much. Then, the barrier of the western sea looms large, to boot.

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Apple of the Bab's eye, indeed. To boot, need to re-look at the dreams of the Master, using recently gained insights. At the same time, there'll be a look at the Master talking to scientists and other leading brains. Ah, yes, audacity.

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Then, there is the departure from the US. So, coming up will the the journey back east, and then off to the people across the pond. Significances there, to boot. Is there a diary?

Remarks:

10/22/2012 -- 

Modified: 10/22/2012

Travels to the west

Month, Day: 176, Words, Mercy  (Majesty)

Back in the 2012 timeframe, there was a website that presented entries from Mamud's Diary with commentary. This is the diary - Mahmúd's Diary: The Diary of Mírzá Mahmúd-i-Zarqání Chronicling 'Abdu'l-Bahá's Journey to America. This blog had posts that followed the journey's retrospective and pointed to writings of others. This post notes that we'll be doing a review, making changes, and getting a more permanent focus.

The Master arrived in April of 1212. He spent time in New England, DC, and Maine (we want to identify the families at Green Acre). A lot of those were family. He started West in September by going to MSP via CHI. By the end of September, He was in SLC on the way to SFO (I know, I'm using the modern label associated with air travel).

Thornton Chase died at the end of September in LAX. He is New England family, too. I just talked to a Baha'i researcher who mentioned that an early believer in DEN, who met the Master, had been taught by Thornton who got around. The Master went to LAX to visit Thornton's grave and pray.

We will be reviewing our post, like this one that quoted from several of Mahmud's entries: Only in California (left coast). The Master blessed Stanford with His presence. Also, He liked the lights of the Bay which are now even more glorious.

Remarks: 07/18/2019


07/18/2019 --

The West

Month, Day: 169, Might, Sovereignty (Perfection)

Yesterday, the 23rd saw the arrival, 100 years ago, of the Master in the first western city, though Nebraska was frontier, to boot. So, we'll enjoy the next month's diary.

It is telling, more than many might know, that the Master traveled coach out of Lincoln. How many bigwigs, of all Faiths -- yes, even those of the New Era, travel as if they're of a higher class? We'll go on about that later.Yes, some of these making oodles of bucks, to boot.

Of course, in the latter stages of His visit on the East Coast, before leaving for the west, the Master noted that there needs to be hierarchy, for order. That is, we can't all be officers, or generals. Yet, those in the upper ranks seems to differentiate themselves as being better (don't deny it, folks -- of course, not all, I've known some real good leaders, few and far between) than those they lead (ah, manage, let's say?).

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Sorry, iconoclasm seems to appropriate when looking at the muck of these days.

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So, now is the time for me to look at significances, from my view, of course, of the events of so long ago. It was enlightening to just become aware of what explains a whole lot of phenomena (ah, yes, outside of science? think again). But, hey, I'm a westerner (as are many others); and, I have decades being involved with this side of the country (naturally, the Nation -- and some of its interests -- subsumes these western states) which the Master saw as having much potential. The quotes today: He called on American to become a land of spiritual distinction and leadership and gave a powerful vision of America's spiritual destiny.

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We keep hearing that we don't know the full value of the Visit. That is an understatement.

Remarks:

10/11/2012 --A visit to the grave site of Thornton Chase on October 19, 1912.

Modified: 10/11/2012

Crown with brilliant jewels

Month, Day: 169, Power, Honour (Perfection)

The headline says, today:  Persian Highbrow Dubs Morgan "Some Philanthropist"

I saw this earlier in the summer but did not notice that the date or that the headline was after the western trip. J.P. Morgan took over his father's bank which had been started by George Peabody. J.P. wasn't universally loved, yet he did change colors and became a giver.

So, that makes one wonder if sins can be bought off. Something like this: step on people, have all sorts of negative impacts, but then turn around and use the money for good. The greed of those after capitalistic pursuits is well-known. Those lusting after power can be problematic, to boot.

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Which brings up the issue of kinghood. We know the Aqdas has a quote that mankind will be of age when noone wants to be king. Yet, we are to serve the king; there seems to be some necessity of the role implied.

Well, it is a role. We can study the royal families in Europe to get a good handle on the intrigue and other matters that ought not be condoned. Except, there are exceptions, like St. Margaret of Scotland.

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In a sense, those ahead of large corporations are the new kings whose domains are beyond any geographic limitations. One doesn't have to go far to see some of these with almost countless poor workers who are trapped into a type of indentured servitude state.

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In True Wealth (SAQ #15), the Master uses the metaphor of a crown: As the compassionate God has placed such a wonderful crown upon the head of man, man should strive that its brilliant jewels may become visible in the world.

Too, the Aqdas tells us of the true throne of gold.

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So, we'll be getting back to this topic, a lot. It was interesting that the Master first mentioned rank after being here a few months. We know that there are differences in ability. The Master said, though, that all ought to be able to enjoy the fruits of life.

Ought kings be elected? We sure see that attribute come out of the personalities of a lot of elected officials (a whole other topic -- we'll get back to this in a discussion of memes, which are, essentially, a way to discuss something that is metaphysical (perhaps, we need another term) without using the term or concept).

Is a king someone who is on the right side of the distribution in all possible projects from whatever is the hyperspace that describes the requirements for the role?

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The Master was the King, as we'll explain, for several reasons. Yet, it was like with Christ, those in charge then completely misinterpreted the predictions of the sacred texts. Our intent in looking at this continues the audacious thrust.

Speaking of memes again, we're all kings of ourselves. By capability, we may differ in how we like to spend our time and energy. However, structure is there to keep the system working. Hence, roles will differ; some may have more glory, or power, than others; yet, we're all potentially the whole bit.

And, we do have the aristocracy as subjects for scrutiny so that we can better learn to live peacefully on this planet.

Remarks:

12/06/2012 -- Changed the title. 'brilliant' was mis-spelt. Writing in tongues? See the next audacious post.

Modified: 12/06/2012

Thornton Chase

Month, Day: 169, Glory, Mercy (Glory)

It was this day, Apr 14, that the Titanic sank. Too, we're three days past the arrival of the Master to the American shores.

Since the next few months can be associated with the visit of 1912, there will be all sorts of possible topics to look at. One of these is Thornton Chase.

The Master changed his itinerary in order to visit Thornton's grave.

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Bahá’ís of the United States

It is interesting to note that both of Thornton's parents have deep American roots. His father descended from Aquila Chase who came over from Chesham in 1630, pursuing religious freedom. Some other families in the Chase tree are Dudley, Bradstreet, Tufts, Lunt, and Cotton. His mother's family included some of those plus Hutchinson and Bachiler.

Why of note? This is about 200 years prior to the Twin Days where we can apply reflection (see About the Middle, George's Lessons, Reckoner II). We'll get into this more through time.

Remarks:

06/08/2020 --For more on AE Lunt, see Hierarchy, bahaipedia, Green Acre, New Englanders, and more.

07/24/2019 -- Notes on Thornton Chase (cuz).

10/31/2012 -- On 11/04/1912, the Master remember Thornton.

10/11/2012 --A visit to the grave site on October 19, 1912.

09/02/2012 -- As the date for the western loop comes closer, we'll get more detailed. Here is the findagrave page for Thornton.

04/19/2012 --The 1912 Trip.

Modified: 06/08/2020

Only in California (left coast)

Month, Day: 169, Might, Loftiness (Justice)

Actually, could say, only in the West.

We'll collect some of Mahmud's quotes here.

• Donner party mentioned. Crossing that pass in the winter reminds us that the elements can, easily, outdo us. Our engineering prowess saves (or can save) the day.
• Speaking of which (engineering), the grandeur found in the western realm are noteworthy. Yet, man-produced marvels abound, to boot. My ancestors were involved with the technical (ah, I know. one can't do anything without funds and money --- yet, it's know how, and ability, that is the key) aspects of the transcontinental railroad.    
• Message, again. We saw this before, in Boston, just before the western trip.
• Alfresco dining. One can just think of those 'prominent' ones strutting about, in their finery, within structures, with little regard for the natural world outside of the walls. Now, any rational person would prefer the outdoor situation which can be as elegantly set up.
• Thornton Chase (of the West).  
• We'll close the list with Chapter XIX of God Passes By. We're still in the period of the western loop which was followed by a period in New York and DC. Then, there was a return to Europe. After looking, again, at the visit to this continent, it'll be interesting to get familiar with the other parts of the trip. Are there diaries such as we found with the US tour?  

Remarks:

10/31/2012 -- It's interesting that the Master spent less than a month in California which is small compared to the total US time. In California, there was less time spent in LA than in SF. So, is it that the less time denotes better spirituality and being? LA reminded the Master of the Holy Land.

10/17/2012 -- Spirit and matter. Did they listen? He used 'electricity' (its spiritual reality, why not ether?). There was one mention by Mahmud that seemed awful close to (analogous to) thermodynamics (the understanding, and definition, of which was coincidental with the Master's time).

10/13/2012 -- Mahmud's diary on-line. Stops December, 1912.

10/09/2012 -- Talks to students (such as, at Stanford) have special meaning for us.

Modified: 10/31/2012

Proofs, dreams

Month, Day: 169, Names, Power (Glory)

Mentioning lesson? There are many left to be learned.

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A cursory look follows which will be explored further. Several posts deal with dreams. They have been with us from the beginning (especially, using a chord model and considering Wonderment). In a talk, 100 years ago today, in Canada, the Master used dreams as an example.

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Audacity would claim that the current studies of the dream focus too much on the vehicle, as in that which bridges the material and the spiritual. The spiritual that relate to the senses are five. Of these, the common faculty does the bridging. So, insight via the Writings ought to have some import in studies related to this "phenomenon" (read the Valley's description). Actually, there are several areas that audacity pertains to; in short, any that extrapolate from a limited basis (and they are many).

The Master (SAQ) described one pathway, yet the five would relate in several manners. That would imply other pathways. It's already been suggested that some people seem to have an emphasis on one of these as they process. We all know the powers of the imagination (Albert's quote, et al -- too, hallucinatory experiences). Thought and memory? Lots to discuss there.

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The point is that 'we' (our very selves) are of the other side of the veil, even though we're tied (how this is so remains a mystery) to Creation's physicality (and, how far does this extend?) during a brief moment in time.

Consider: our little box (Hilbert, et al) of wetware-influenced consciousness sweeping through sensible space, yet, at the same time, traversing the worlds (many, many) of God. There is a post that talks this as being one motivation for burial and timeliness of its occurrence. Something to ponder? While embodied, we have choice as to direction (within our box and its sphere plus however we relate to the rest); that, itself, implies an enormous amount of power (yes, even of the physically observable type -- beyond our imagination, at this point) and influence. The main reason to open the box (not Pandora-ish) is to obtain insight so as to do science in a proper manner (the Master says that such is our duty, many times and ways -- hence, audacity's emergence -- nothing to do with hubris).


Remarks:

03/12/2013 -- We need to address effectiveness.

10/17/2012 -- There is a lot to reflect on, about the trip, especially the western loop.

09/24/2012 -- The west, finally.

Modified: 03/12/2013

Lessons via Hands

Month, Day: 170, Grandeur, Names (Glory)

Last year, we had the Master's visit (celebration thereof) to recall and learn from, in our own ways. Being an American Baha'i, reading about the travels was particularly inspiring. Having spent most of my life in the western part of the U.S., that portion of the visit was especially wonderful to read about using the new forms of presentation. I posted related blog posts during the period, last year.

Let us remind ourselves that the western expansion from the eastern start (early 17th century) is a large part of the history of the country. The Master sojourned, for the most part, in the former. There are lessons from that. The western jaunt could be thought of as whirlwind.

That is, in terms of physical size, the west hold many multiples of the little eastern region. 100 years ago, of course, the east had the majority of the population. We'll get back to this theme, as America's role (potential) requires a good re-look.

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Aside: There will be some flavoring of audacity as the theme expands.

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Thinking about the congruences, in space, with the visit that was celebrated last year, and lessons thereof, got me to consider a couple of other lessons. Both of these resulted from being in close proximity of a Hands (Zikrullah Khadem and Abu'l-Qasim Faizi). Note, that proximity does not imply social interaction; I was in the room where they (different calendar days) were giving a talk (and meeting audience members). In both cases, I was puzzled. Mr. Faizi's lesson was more immediately apparent, yet the context/content could be looked at further. Mr. Khadem's was a little more perplexing, at the time and for awhile afterward, since it was more personally oriented. With the passing of time, several things to discuss stand out.

You see, these occurrences were 40+ years ago when I was much younger. Too, there are still lessons for us to learn from those times. Perhaps, the boomers getting to retirement age will bring out some of this, including the approaching 50th year look-back.

We'll get to the lessons and what they mean, later. 

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For now, let's just say that the Hands of the Cause had talents out of the normal related to their role which was limited by point of time.

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Aside (from earlier post): The blogger has been, during his times, in all of the cities visited by the Master in the U.S. though not always being aware that there had been the Presence. So, it's not like a pilgrimage, but there is a record of this in memory and on the ether. Serendipitous convergence, somewhat. -- Addition -- There are patterns, that will relate to cosmology, which can only be understood (perceived?) from the context of the Writings. How will this work (do not limit consideration to the propositional)?

Remarks:

05/25/2013 -- The approach is somewhat similar to writing about inspirational, or interesting, characters met, and such. The context would be of the Faith's Basis.

Modified: 05/25/2013

Audacious comment

Month, Day: 170, Perfection, Beauty (Glory)

I did not expect to be back to this until 8/8 (Perfection squared; here's another type), however a comment left on the Baha'i Faith and Science Talk page provided an unexpected motivation. Rather than respond to the comment on the Talk page, I decided to do so here.

Firstly, the comment (in part - see discussion, below) from Anonymous (from Texas): ... But I also believe in prophecy. I have my own interpretations of Baha'i prophecies on science. I believe that what this page says about creation and nuclear power is true.... As for ether, I believe that Abdul Baha was referring to the Higgs boson. Transmutation of elements? I believe that refers to picotechnology and femtotechnology which are orders of magnitude smaller than nanotechnology. ...

Secondly, there are many things to discuss, in an audacious mode. Whether or not the topic gets attention by those doing "scholarly" work can be immaterial. I can put my finger on several examples where the peers did not understand some person who turned out to be right. But, more, it's a matter of concern for the individual (no group will stand in your stead when it's your time). This is brief, but we can say this: science, and knowledge, are far beyond what the current-day cohorts (of talent, drive -- in other words, on the largely-gifted side -- see the little thing about gallons, cups, handfuls) have wrapped within their mathematically-flavored sense of reality.

Thirdly, we have the Wiki policies to consider. That is not the platform for discussion or creatively expressed ideas. So, where is there such? Well, we could have a page off the BF&S to allow such. The Talk page has gotten a lot of use. 

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I like the use of "prophecy" and am assuming some notion of other ways of knowing. One onus for those of the BF'ers (or any who honor spirituality) would be to counter yokes that are all the time trying to encompass being (restrain it) into a bounded state. Mind you, an individual very well may constrain itself; that is a matter of choice (actually, it is counseled - but, against whose judgment is one to reflect for value?). It's more than a matter of constraints; any autodidact would easily show something to his/her peers, if they would listen (unfortunately, that is not the way of the world whose principle value resides within a committee who offers prizes -- we can discuss this, at length).

Yes, the BF&S page mentions a lot more than it did in 2005. That denotes progress. But, some of the words seem to dance around (almost tautological view of minerals being everywhere - as if this were life in the larger connotations), so as to not get dinged (?) by those who are virulently supportive of their modern views (some of which are more scientism than not - sometimes noted as Brights, here). So, the comment's take on the items is nice to see. We'll get back to this.

Ether? Yes, that is a problematic area; it's almost a litmus test to see if someone falls into hubris with their knowledge. Consider, too, psyche-ether's use, to boot. One thing that grates, frankly, on the BF&S page was the almost apologetic explanation of what the Master meant. Granted, language is temporal and situational. Yet, that to which the Master alluded did not fade away (just as God did not die). So, see the next item, please.

Higgs? Yes, a lot of money has been (is being) spent to find out what we already know (there is something from the Bab about the new-born babe today knowing more than all of the scholars of His time --- applies today, given time, I'll explain). Again, it gets back to private versus public knowledge. The former is not illusory, by nature (in fact, it's more real than the latter). The latter is artifact-based (including language being used as a tool), as in, does not deal with essence.

And, the models that motivate the money being spent get re-inforced by the intelligent cosmos (small "c" used purposely). That is, what was found out was precisely what we were led to find out. Yet, the large truth is still there, ready for grasping. The main question is how this might come about. Consider: a future model, where the Great Undecidable nestles within and surrounds the computational - essentially, a wisely attuned quasi-empirical framework as the operational basis. Again, just a brief statement here; can discuss this ad infinitum. 

Now, two paragraphs above, I suggested that we already know. Yes, that pertains to bringing back intuition into the equation. How this might be done will be a whole area of study and practice in itself. Perhaps, our main hope is that the BF, using the Master and more, can demonstrate efficacy (such as we will need) in establishing such (more than cognition).

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So, considering that futurists can be listened to (with a grain of salt and more), why not have a section on the BF&S page dealing with the future. After all, the cosmologists have run amok already far beyond what their model can support (ah, how to explain this to them?). Perhaps, a more tempered viewpoint deserves some attention. 

Remarks:

04/03/2015 -- This is a popular post. See NDEers for a bit of audacity.

09/30/2013 -- More of a technical nature.

08/08/2013 -- Perfection/Perfection.

08/04/2013 -- This is not to be construed as an off-site area for discussion of Wikipedia content. Rather, it's a blog with a Science/Religion flavor within the contexts mentioned in the Title written and maintained by the blogger representing only his viewpoint.  There just happened to be a recent overlap of interest with an entry on a particular Talk page. Hey. In truth, this blog started since Wikipedia is not the platform for the content that this blog attempts to bring forth for discussion. 

08/04/2013 -- Forgot to mention the Great Ether. Incidentally, the list of things to discuss is very long. Here is one thrown out in good spirit: Virgin Mary. But, once opening the door, it's hard to stop: Apple of the Eye of the Bab.

Modified: 04/03/2015

Technology and civilization

 Month, Day: 178, Splendour, Might (Perfection)

While browsing posts on FB (Group titled "Stories of the Hands of the Cause"), Dorothy Baker was mentioned. The post was dated 3 Nov 2020 and included three images: a portrait of Dorothy, a photo of a plane, and a snapshot at Akka's view of the Mediterranean. 

Per usual, I went to look for information as I do when I learn about a person. One can find information in various places, such as a FindAGrave profile: Dorothy Beecher Baker (1898-1954). Then I saw that there had been a plane crash (more below). Before going further, I followed some links, such as this profile on Bahaipedia: Dorothy Beecher Baker. There we have a brief look at her family history plus there is a reference to the infamous crash (again, below). However, there is also a quote from Dorothy: “If I could really have my choice, I would be buried at sea. “And if I could choose the sea, then it would be the Mediterranean, whose waves will lap eternally on the shores of ‘Akká.” 

The significance still didn't ring. So, I continued looking and found out that her grandmother (Ellen Tuller Beecher) had an OBE when she was younger in which she saw the Master Who she met when He was in the U.S. in 1912. I like that the site that reported on the 100th celebration of this momentous occasion, by blogging back, in 2012 (centenary.bahai.us), is still around. 

Of particular interest, at the time, was the New England ancestry/history of many of the folks in the area (such as Thornton Chase). Too, it was interesting to see a Quaker influence which was quite influential in the area, starting a few centuries earlier. 

That brief overview is full of potential future research which overlaps the interest related to the start of the U.S. from the beginning 400 years ago. Pertinent will be studies related to families 250 years ago when there was a split between the patriots and the loyalists both of which groups have modern descendants. However, an area of rich mining potential would be the western expansion of 200 years ago when remnants of New England, New Spain, and New France meet up and when the country fills in. 

The theme? Civilization requires people to advance both from the station control and guidance and from that of those upon whose back things get done. A reminder in this regard is the letter sent by the Master to Alfred Eastman Lunt (Crush the mind). And progress in Civilization requires technology, which again has various stations involved.  

Myself, I have seen all of the levels, personally, hence my viewpoints on various matters. Some of those have been expressed in this blog; albeit, on-going research is the mode that is imperative. 

Dorothy was on the plane that demonstrated the new requirements for air travel. Some talk, test by death. Of late, we might have seen spiritual death from the propagation of those silly devices that are so addictive to people without anyone, that I can see, trying to understand. But, that's the responsibility fo the station that drives things awry, eventually.  Much to discuss there. 

Speaking of engineering, though, Boeing had made another decision through their analysis. In fact, the company had several decades of success with one model not having any performance failures of the major catastrophic type which is phenomenally important. Mostly, this is due to the processes put into place through a collaborative effort across stations. 

Why use stations? Good point. We'll get to that, eventually. But, about a decade later, I had a high-school friend go down in the Mediterranean on a U.S. Navy fighter jet. Not knowing the specifics, I can surmise that some parameter set was exceeded due to our always having limited understanding. This has to do, in part, with the Science and Religion dynamic which is of such difficulty. We can observe things being pushed out earlier than they ought with the people bearing the consequences. Too, we can observe a more conservative approach, yet even with that our control is not absolute. And, those of the BWF will be influential, some day. I have not seen this, yet. 

Given that the post mentioned dreams, I can talk of one type that I have had over the years that relate to my friend. Two things come to mind beyond the fact that these instances occur: 1) there seems to be some parallel development, 2) they have it better than do we. 

Be that as it may, we can say that it's too bad that DeHavilland was the one; it went defunct in 1963. Plenty of other companies have been responsible for much worse and are still around. Wait, that type of economic/ethical surmising is out of line? 

Well, recently, we had two instances much like we saw with that 1954 crash. These two resulted in the plane being grounded for a long while during a period of analysis, fixing and testing. It is about to go back to the sky. Methinks that people just take for granted the little miracles that are required for a flight to go to and arrive at some destination. Perhaps, we might find appropriate metaphors in the Quran that would help us paint a picture that really needs some attention. 

In any case, one of our tasks might be a taming of STEM which can present us with beasts of various natures, such as we might be seeing with types of AI presentations. My role? These are very hard issues that we face, as the Master alluded to with His counsel to Alfred. 

Remarks: 03/29/2021 

03/29/2021 --  

The illustrious

Month, Day: 170, Mercy, Questions (Perfection)

Last year, as we followed the Master's journey of 100 years ago (now 101), it was interesting to see who came to visit Him. As well, He got to the Library of Congress. Didn't see any visit to Congress.

In DC, all of the literati lined up, it looks like. One of them was Adolphus Greely who rose to the level of Major General. The General had an interesting career. He, in his younger days, led a team, in 1881, to the polar region. They got stranded and were rescued 1884. The majority of the team was lost.

Later, in his post-retirement years, he had the opportunity to meet the Master.

Remarks:

07/08/2013 -- 

Modified: 07/08/2013

Great Ether

Month, Day: 169, Perfection, Splendour (Justice)

As man progresses in pulling secrets out of nature (growing in hubris at the same time) with his models,  the concept of 'ether' has become associated with ignorance. Ah, yes. However, we have used it here, a number of times (search on ether). Why? For one, many seem to be apologetic about its use in the Writings. Too, the story has not been fully written, people.

Hopefully, some ideas that need attention will get receive more than the scoffing putdown.

The whole matter came to me, again, as I was reading excerpts from Juliet's recollections about the Master's visit to the U.S. That whole bit was such a blessing which might bear some discussion within the contexts being covered here.

The posting on the Great Ether is of much significance as it mentions the power of the Master (and, introduces a glimmer of an approach to resolving issues that matter). Another post rocks:

Amusingly, while materialists are engaged in making discoveries concerning the strata of the earth, they are immersed in the very spiritual power whose potency and influence they deny. They also claim to forecast coming events.

Remarks:

08/01/2012 --

Modified: 08/01/2012

Hierarchy

Month, Day: 176, Third Intercalary Day  (Independence)

This one matches up with the 29th of Feb, that rare bird. 

The Guardian is quoted in one of the Pilgrim Notes as saying that there is an hierarchy in the Faith as there is in life. The Writings, elsewhere, mention the highers knowing more than those below. We see other references like this. The Master praised the physicians who got it right. None have, that I can see (long story of patient advocacy going back decades). We would trust our lives to such. Which we do, by caveat. Some get better due to treatment. But, there are plenty of horror stories, too.

 I go by the ending of the Aqdas. No one in their right mind would want to be King. That is easy to describe. Jung touched upon the subject. Oh yes, the Guardian pointed to Psychology in at least one instance. That can be as medical as the other disciplines. Except, pharma intervenes.

Speaking of which, an early post (Crush the mind) included a counsel for prayer from the Master to Alfred E. Lunt (in-law). To me, it has lots of significance. Anyone who thinks that those born lowly can rise on their own need to reexamine their thinking. Some are of the mud, from birth. 'mud' here is of a lots of meanings. The Guardian stressed the materialism of the west (northern type). After all, Africa is west of Asia. Northern type? Lots to discuss there.

Eons and Manifestations have resulted in locale issues. Sure, there can be action at a distance, when the  metric is manipulated. However, locality and its power bear attention. Hence, adages of removing oneself like we see with the big pocket'd thinking of launching away from the earth (God's footstool) since they see the messes that we've created.

The point? Those lowly can still rise in their minds and hearts. Some point to the after-life's importance to some belief systems in this regard and cough into their hands (scoff). However, as that prayer says, and the Tablet of the True seeker suggests, and as we see with the Valley of Search, there ought to be no limit to striving. What to strive for is another topic to be on the table.

Back to hierarchy, many at the top live by the means of oodles beneath them. That has always been a problem. And, for the most part, those invisibles never get attention, that is, until something goes wrong. Then blame flames. So that might be the game's structure. The adage of not coming down on the sinner (not talking the issues of reward and punishment, rather of individual judgment of others - which is a trap that the well-honed mind likes to fall into) since one knows not one's own end (see the Koran, too) is an very important one.

At the same time, doormats never thrive. But, the earth never complains. Oh yes, it does. Lots of upheavals (and not just in the crust) come about.

Remarks: 06/08/2020

06/08/2020 --For more on AE Lunt, see Hierarchy, bahaipedia, Green Acre, New Englanders, and more.