Five points

Month, Day: 169, Glory, Power (Glory)

Today, Ridvan. Looking at some related material, I came across the Symbols. And, then I saw the Tablet of the Bab written as a five-pointed star.

Well, have to admit, haven't seen that before.

And, the meanderings today looked at Names of God (Attributes).

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Earlier, there had been discussion about the Groups. Picking a partitioning by four was arbitrary, but that did allow a type of coherent view which had some operational appeal. Part of the discussion used 'chords' which seems to be implied in the 7V4V.

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Let's consider a five partition.

• Splendour, Glory, Beauty, Grandeur, Light (so far, it looks cohesive)
• Mercy, Words, Perfection, Names, Might (again)
• Will, Knowledge, Power, Speech, Questions (ah, operational efforts, and science)
• Honour, Dominion, Sovereignty, Intercalary, Loftiness (with the buffer period, there is an even split)

There is something to this. What concepts would apply to each of the groups so that we could identify a label?

I will have to use the current measure to consider the theme further. 

Remarks:

04/22/2012 --So, we have both a 4x5 and a 5x4. The former has been looked at for awhile. The latter will be the focus of attention for a few posts. Then, we'll relate the two viewpoints.

Modified: 04/22/2012

Thornton Chase

Month, Day: 169, Glory, Mercy (Glory)

It was this day, Apr 14, that the Titanic sank. Too, we're three days past the arrival of the Master to the American shores.

Since the next few months can be associated with the visit of 1912, there will be all sorts of possible topics to look at. One of these is Thornton Chase.

The Master changed his itinerary in order to visit Thornton's grave.

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Bahá’ís of the United States

It is interesting to note that both of Thornton's parents have deep American roots. His father descended from Aquila Chase who came over from Chesham in 1630, pursuing religious freedom. Some other families in the Chase tree are Dudley, Bradstreet, Tufts, Lunt, and Cotton. His mother's family included some of those plus Hutchinson and Bachiler.

Why of note? This is about 200 years prior to the Twin Days where we can apply reflection (see About the Middle, George's Lessons, Reckoner II). We'll get into this more through time.

Remarks:

06/08/2020 --For more on AE Lunt, see Hierarchy, bahaipedia, Green Acre, New Englanders, and more.

07/24/2019 -- Notes on Thornton Chase (cuz).

10/31/2012 -- On 11/04/1912, the Master remember Thornton.

10/11/2012 --A visit to the grave site on October 19, 1912.

09/02/2012 -- As the date for the western loop comes closer, we'll get more detailed. Here is the findagrave page for Thornton.

04/19/2012 --The 1912 Trip.

Modified: 06/08/2020

Operationally oriented

Month, Day: 169, Splendour, Names (Majesty)
Month, Day: 169, Splendour, Might (Independence)

We're into the first day of the Operational. The just past Group (Teleological) ended with Perfection. Of course, we're in a month of the Transcendent (baffles the brights).

The first attribute of Operational, Names, implies structure. We've said that before (and will get back into this). Then, the next ones, Might and Will, are related to actions on (or by) those structures, implying, in part, motion.

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So, two thoughts on action.


SAQ #63: This state of motion is said to be essential—that is, natural; it cannot be separated from beings because it is their essential requirement, as it is the essential requirement of fire to burn.

Of course, as it says, one action is to remember those who have passed on. Pray for the departed.

SAQ #62: As the spirit of man after putting off this material form has an everlasting life, certainly any existing being is capable of making progress; therefore, it is permitted to ask for advancement, forgiveness, mercy, beneficence and blessings for a man after his death because existence is capable of progression.

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Of course, there are many more actions, almost an endless set, given all the possible permutations. Objects? We have only a glimmer of these, mainly having discovered those within the scope of our filters, both natural and scientific. 

But, remembrance of people past has several implications that we'll get into at some point. It'll be brought to the fore, by necessity. 

Remarks:

03/29/2012 -- Interesting video on self-transcendence. Pay attention to the last three minutes.

Modified: 03/30/2012

Measure of Measures

Month, Day: 168, Loftiness, Loftiness (Grace)

Several things happen today: we move to 169, get a new batch of measure, traverse the heavens, and more. 

In terms of the first, it's the continuation of cycles with different types of markings passing by. For the second, do we ever notice that the measures collapse to naught? And, on the paths, they are indeed wide. 

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The earth may indeed be near round, but the world is flat. Ever talk to someone on the phone who is near 180 degrees from you? Do they see themselves as 'neath your feet and rotated that amount of degrees?

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Some see. What do others do? Sense?

Remarks:

03/25/2016 -- A change in the calendar will have some days adjusting. As well, we have a principal vector upon which to contemplate.

08/08/2013 -- Perfection/Perfection.

03/22/2012 -- As we get our measure, we might consider what is written about wealth: 2010, 2008, 2008.

Modified: 03/23/2016

Reckoner II

Month, Day: 168, Loftiness, Might (Glory)

We're into the Operational of the Groups. It is nice, since the whole thing implies doing something (action). Except, it starts out with Names which relates to structure (does it not?). Also, we're heading to the new release of our measure.

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Gosh, we've been about three years away from the technical, so it's time. For instance, Reckoner was used in the context of some ACM work. Now, thanks to it being the 100th (ACM's coverage) of Alan M. Turing, we can get back to this and be a little more serious (and audacious).

One of the articles is by Leeds' professor S. Barry Cooper and is titled (1912 focus): Turing's Titanic Machine? (fortunately, the article is open to public use)  In this article, Prof Cooper runs through the issues related to incomputable which we'll look at in detail. Too, he points to areas that will be of importance.

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As a reminder, the whole audacious theme is a railing against several  viewpoints, such as reductionism as it applies to computing. What we see has developed is a framework that is shaky at its core; yet, it shines so much like a chimera as to draw the highly intelligent into its grasp. To paraphrase what I've written elsewhere: with the advance of computation, we have let the genie out of the bottle in an irreversible manner.

One approach here seemed to be a relook at some issues that relate to topology (loosely used).

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Now, this discussion is within the context of Faith & Science. One proposal would be that there be another bullet dealing with computation and nature (however phrased). Surely, there has been some type of study in this area; if not, the fact that we could provide support for the quasi-empirical view from the Writings for fostering a middle-out approach (to wit, blind/delusional polarity) might be a motivation.

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Turing is quoted as saying (see Prof Cooper's article): ...if a machine is expected to be infallible, it cannot also be intelligent. There are several theorems which say almost exactly that.

The discussion page of the Faith & Science article (Wiki) had a go-around about inerrancy (related to infallibility, in part). Consider that the information transfer (you see, all sorts of scientific progress related to computation is useful) implied by instruments, such as the Writings, can be put into a 'machine' concept.Yet, not. That gap is amenable to some type of rectification, albeit limited, which will allow for a better foundational view (why else the emphasis on Science in the Faith?).

Remarks:

08/08/2013 -- Perfection/Perfection.

10/17/2012 -- There is a lot to reflect on, about the trip, especially the western loop.

04/14/2012 -- Thornton Chase is an example of several things that will be discussed this year.

03/30/2012 -- Interesting video on self-transcendence. Pay attention to the last three minutes.

03/11/2012 -- Must mention that psychether will be a central theme. The intuition has been emboldened by the passing of an older brother. I haven't characterized the experience yet, but looking at the CH dreams serves as a proxy until such is attempted. 

Modified: 08/08/2013