The Poets

Month, Day: 170, Perfection, Questions (Majesty)

Our best benefit is this Attribute, the foundation of science.

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Earlier, we took a brief look at Either/Or. One either accepts something or not. This applies across the board; even, dear readers, in science where "faith" pertains to belief (perhaps, measured by comfort-ability with) in the system (methods, etc.), the players (credentials), and even one's own prowess (yes, the development of hubris is not uncommon). One of our 21st Century problems is that perceived effectiveness of quantitative methods (read, applied mathematics) leads toward a shroud that is appallingly deadening to the spirit (whatever that is? -- ah, audacity will cover that, to boot).

Now, given methods and their chief tendency (centralism), we see the necessity to demonstrate a broader sense of knowing (not an important issue?). These ways of knowing are accepted by some; how many of those who accept have any idea of the functional aspects?

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So, given a Faith, one has Writings to consider. Of course, the believer accepts the Writings. The non-believer not; so, we have the need to address issues, many times, without using the Writings (to be discussed). So, given the choice, mentioned above, one would have Writings (inspired) on the one hand; on the other, it would be a matter of creativity, being clever, and other human approaches.

Now, can one obtain knowledge such that science (without some serious changes) cannot evaluate the source, the context, veracity, and more? Of course. Such really is what is behind success of the highest nature. Despite protestations otherwise, consciousness is not under anyone's thumb (that is, all materialistically motivated attempts are lacking -- and will continue to be -- that is one thing for audacity to bring out). 

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One of the Writings is the Koran. It's an enormous amount of material that was spoken for a long while. Later, there were attempts to write what was recalled in a more permanent form.

There are other Sources, however we use the Koran due to its relationship with the Glory and the Master. They knew to quote from this source.

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Now, using a nice Koran site, let's look at The Poets. In this Sura, there is a listing of earlier Prophets.

Why is this important? Well, the inspiration behind the Koran puts a strong basis behind its veracity. Okay? 

So, we could match up these Prophets with the Bible; we could also take a historical view.

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We'll get back to this, but we can list a few and their times: Moses (ca. 1391 BCE), Eber/Hud (ca. ?), Lot (ca. 2000 BCE), Jethro (ca. Moses' father-in-law), Salih (ca. ?), Noah (ca. before Lot). This list is from only one sura. There are many more Prophets mentioned elsewhere in the Koran.

Again, given their mention, we can take them as historical fact. Filling in the details may, or may not, be of interest. 

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The theme, in each case, is that the Prophet tried to get people to listen but failed, in general. There were those who listened; the majority did not (makes on think of the Return mentioned in the Iqan). Now, one could consider the repercussions of the failure, but we can go in other directions, too. Such as? How could have listening changed what was known?

Ah, in the ancient past, that is a long stretch. But, please consider. It is not hard to look at how things have unfolded with the past 200 years or so and, then, to ponder how things might have been different. In fact, one might argue that we are to do just that, using the Revelation time as a point of reflection (actually, it's more an issue of a symmetry of sorts).

Remarks:

08/15/2013 -- Abraham is not in the list? He's at the top.

Modified: 08/15/2013